Members Puckman Posted September 17, 2007 Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 Help me choose my next amp. I have played and completely fallen in love with the DRRI. I love the cleans, I love how it takes pedals, and it's all around a great amp. I have not been able to find a Rocker 30 to try out, but the specs on it are very nice, and sample clips and youtube clips of it sound very nice too. Let me hear some comparisons, some pros and cons, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zepfan976 Posted September 17, 2007 Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 My opinion is slightly bias. I say Orange because I own a AD30 and I dont like pedals (other than my tuner). That being said I almost never play clean, there is almost always some break-up in my sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Machine Gun Posted September 17, 2007 Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 Purchase what you've played. Only way to know if you like it or not. My 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted September 17, 2007 Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 Are the Orange not about twice as much $$$. You could run two DRRI's in stereo for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Puckman Posted September 17, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 I knew you'd be piping in (Zepfan), since you've followed my fickle amp quest lately To be honest (and this might help with clarifying what I'm looking for), I've outgrown the "effects" phase (at least for now) and the multi-gizmo-multi-channel approach. I am in a back to basics mode, where I can see myself running a guitar straight through an amp, and/or using a dirt box (like the Barber Direct Drive I just got) and using that as a basis for molding any tone. As I said, I have not played the Orange, but I have played the DRRI, and I have seen it played in front of me, with teles, strats, LPs through a very simple setup, and found that it can do pretty much anything very very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Puckman Posted September 17, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 Let's assume price is not an issue for the purposes of this discussion. I play at home, so running 2 amps in stereo is kind of overkill. It's either one or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tezmond Posted September 17, 2007 Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 I have a DRRI can beat it for cleans, BUT........... I had to take it back to the shop for repairs after 3 month cos it developed a really bad squeal,and really how much reverb do you need? I think I should have bought an amp with a gain channel instead, but thats just me, as I say they are a great amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Puckman Posted September 17, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 Let me also throw in there that I currently play a Peavey Classic 30, 30W 2-channel. If that helps put the Orange in perspective. (They have roughly similar specs, except for the power tubes, I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zepfan976 Posted September 17, 2007 Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 I knew you'd be piping in (Zepfan), since you've followed my fickle amp quest lately To be honest (and this might help with clarifying what I'm looking for), I've outgrown the "effects" phase (at least for now) and the multi-gizmo-multi-channel approach. I am in a back to basics mode, where I can see myself running a guitar straight through an amp, and/or using a dirt box (like the Barber Direct Drive I just got) and using that as a basis for molding any tone. As I said, I have not played the Orange, but I have played the DRRI, and I have seen it played in front of me, with teles, strats, LPs through a very simple setup, and found that it can do pretty much anything very very well. Im with you on the back to basics thing. Tell me why I need 30+ knobs Unless you can find an Orange to play I will say buy from some where with a very loose return policy or buy the DRRI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Puckman Posted September 17, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 I'd definitely try the orange before buying. But I'm looking for some opinions from you guys until i find one to try out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bloolight Posted September 17, 2007 Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 Being a DRRI owner, I'm a bit biased. It's so good that I can't believe how cheap it was... I've never played an Orange. I loathe the way they look. Therefore, purely on the basis of external appearance, I say you get the DRRI! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members strat6866 Posted September 17, 2007 Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 Let me also throw in there that I currently play a Peavey Classic 30, 30W 2-channel. If that helps put the Orange in perspective. (They have roughly similar specs, except for the power tubes, I think). What dont you like about the classic 30? Why are you looking to replace it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Puckman Posted September 17, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 What dont you like about the classic 30? Why are you looking to replace it? I didn't say I was looking to replace it The Classic 30 is a great amp. I like it just fine. I'm just interested in diversifying a bit, or "upgrading" to my one ultimate amp. As I said in another thread, I played a DRRI over the weekend and totally fell in love to the point where I can see myself sticking to that one amp exclusively for all my needs. I've always been interested in the rocker 30, but since I've never played one, I wanna hear how that would compare to the DRRI. Ultimately, i'll have to play one myself, obviously to decide if that is the ultimate amp or not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IRG Posted September 18, 2007 Members Share Posted September 18, 2007 Oh you poor demented soul. LOL. Try a Traynor. Just to make your choices harder. Have you ever listened to one? I am still waiting on mine, and the wait is getting harder each day. But I hear the cleans on Traynors are really good, but their overdrive is usually superior so imo your getting the best of both worlds. Just one more amp to make it more confusing. I don't have an Orange dealer close by, which is probably a good thing... I would give Vox a close second look though if I don't like the Traynor. Maybe an AC15 or the AC30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Procreatur Posted September 18, 2007 Members Share Posted September 18, 2007 not having played through one, my opinion may not matter. but, i just built a PTP wired big brother to the DR, a vibrolux reverb, and i am falling in love. i haven't played it much cause i got to work some little issues out, but the thing rocks. super sparkly fender clean. the barber you mentioned is my new found pedal for just about anything i play, and it works great with the amp. but, i may just have to run a stereo setup with my other DIY head... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ajcoholic Posted September 18, 2007 Members Share Posted September 18, 2007 Puck,I have the Rocker 30, and had a DRRI for a year and a half (I sold it recently to the other guitar player in my band) The Orange is very versatile and does clean to very overdriven well IMO. The Fender is great for cleans, but I personally did not care for the dirty sound, and I wasnt thrilled with the way an OD pedal made it sound either. Its a great amp, mind you, just that I think it does clean extremely well and thats kind of it for me. I'd take the orange if I had to choose no question about it. AJC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jedistar Posted September 18, 2007 Members Share Posted September 18, 2007 Orange Rocker 30 in a heart beat...If you hate the orange - they do come in Black you know... Rock solid build, heavy Awesome with Gibson 57 humbuckers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lowbrow Posted September 18, 2007 Members Share Posted September 18, 2007 Two totally different amps.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted September 18, 2007 Members Share Posted September 18, 2007 I love my Orange AD30, but I would suggest the DRRI:wave: There are postives and negatives to both amps. This is a neat article:http://aga.rru.com/Events/MM-DRRI-rebuild/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members strat6866 Posted September 18, 2007 Members Share Posted September 18, 2007 Yeah, i think you're gonna have to buy both. Doesnt look like this thread is helping you make a decision, just confusing you more. Happens to me all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blues Junior Posted September 18, 2007 Members Share Posted September 18, 2007 Hey Puckman...Tough choice. The DRRI excels at cleans, the Orange better at gain. DRRI is a 6V6 tube amp, the Rocker 30 EL34. It's like apples and well, oranges;) I love the DRRI, as you know i have a blonde one. I like the Orange.I've always gone on the premise of having a great clean base sound, and then add your dirt. Now, a DRRI has gorgeous cleans, and when cranked is a beautiful, raw, open sound rockin sound. Put a Les Paul or Tele through a cranked DRRI and you'll wet your pants;) Can't always do that though. So adding a pedal, like a Direct Drive would be a great option. Just my $.02, YMMV:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 23miles Posted September 18, 2007 Members Share Posted September 18, 2007 Hey Puckman...Tough choice. The DRRI excels at cleans, the Orange better at gain. DRRI is a 6V6 tube amp, the Rocker 30 EL34. It's like apples and well, oranges;)I love the DRRI, as you know i have a blonde one. I like the Orange.I've always gone on the premise of having a great clean base sound, and then add your dirt. Now, a DRRI has gorgeous cleans, and when cranked is a beautiful, raw, open sound rockin sound. Put a Les Paul or Tele through a cranked DRRI and you'll wet your pants;) Can't always do that though. So adding a pedal, like a Direct Drive would be a great option. Just my $.02, YMMV:) I have a DRRI which is lovely. I am not personally familiar with Orange amps but, looking at the specs and prices, your choice seems to be apples vs. Oranges, literally. I think it would be a more fair comparison, power- and price-wise, to compare the Orange with a Fender Super Reverb, in which case I would go with the Super in a heartbeat - but that is just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Puckman Posted September 18, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 18, 2007 Puck,I have the Rocker 30, and had a DRRI for a year and a half (I sold it recently to the other guitar player in my band)The Orange is very versatile and does clean to very overdriven well IMO. The Fender is great for cleans, but I personally did not care for the dirty sound, and I wasnt thrilled with the way an ID pedal made it sound either. Its a great amp, mind you, just that I think it does clean extremely well and thats kind of it for me.I'd take the orange if I had to choose no question about it.AJC Interesting. That's the kind of "comparison" i was looking for. I put comparison between quotes, because I do realize the 2 amps are totally different animals, pricewise, spec wise, etc. It's more that they both interest me, and I am looking to get general opinions about what can or can't be done with them. To everyone else who keeps saying "Apples and Oranges", I really do understand that they are 2 almost unrelated amps. It's just a matter of both of them competing for my top GAS spot at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Puckman Posted September 18, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 18, 2007 I've always gone on the premise of having a great clean base sound, and then add your dirt. That is kind of what I'm angling for these days. As I explained elsewhere, I got a bit over the "multi-channel, multi-gizmo" approach. I love the simplicity of gorgeous cleans, and I recently got the Barber Direct Drive pedal and love how it sounds, so I figure that would be my approach. Now, a DRRI has gorgeous cleans, and when cranked is a beautiful, raw, open sound rockin sound. Put a Les Paul or Tele through a cranked DRRI and you'll wet your pants;) Can't always do that though. So adding a pedal, like a Direct Drive would be a great option. Just my $.02, YMMV:) Yes. I have heard the DRRI and I have played it, and I have felt exactly the way you describe. I guess I'm wondering if the Orange comes anywhere close with those cleans (among other things).I won't know first hand until I play one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Puckman Posted September 18, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 18, 2007 Let me throw in another question: Spec-wise, what is the difference between EL34s and EL84s in the power tubes? Generally speaking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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