Members GarysBlues Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 I remember the Red ES-345 with the Airplane. I remember the Riviera's also. This is actually when I became interested in Gibson Semi's. Just a fantastic guitarist thats been very underated. I don't remember the Standel amps but do remember the Twin Reverbs and Showmans. But I certainly could see where the Standel would fit in. I used one for a period in the 90's that a elderly gemtleman bought in my shop. He was looking for information on the amp. It was a vertical 210 combo amp with caster's on it and was very clean. I thought the fellow was trying to sell it, but I believe he just wanted info on the amp. He left it with me for about a year. Then showed up one day just as he had a year earlier to pick-up the amp? It was a strange situation for sure. I used the Standell in the store the entire time it was their. It definatly had good Tone. I do-not remember the model though. JA was certainly one of my favorite bands around the 67 period. The San Fran scene and very much a drug orientated party band. I seen Grace with Starship also on her last tour. She had gotten a little heavy but still sounded great. And of course she made a public announcement looking for 7/14s she heard were in town. She believed older Rock and Rollers looked pathetic and said she would quit when she reached this point! She Did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rick 381 Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 hmmm...she should have traded in his swastika medalion while she was there Maybe not. The swastika is a religious symbol as revered as the cross in many major religions. The nazi swastika was always displayed at a 45 degree angle, Jorma's is horizontal in the classic religious manner. Therefore it should not be considered offensive. BTW, Jorma is Jewish. Read the history of the swastika, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mr benn Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 Maybe not. The swastika is a religious symbol as revered as the cross in many major religions. The nazi swastika was always displayed at a 45 degree angle, Jorma's is horizontal in the classic religious manner. Therefore it should not be considered offensive. BTW, Jorma is Jewish.Read the history of the swastika, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika okay,didn't know the history but surely these days it's outward perception to the vast majority of people has a negative connection? he must have gotten a little pissed off with everyone nagging him about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BAXANDALL Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 Jorma's original ES. While he was out of town his ex-wife pawned it for drug money. It was sold before he could find it. After seeing Rick381's post I imagine he was scared to let them out of his sight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Loxley Posted March 25, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 Jorma's original ES. While he was out of town his ex-wife pawned it for drug money. It was sold before he could find it. What a bitch.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaVenCAD Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 Jorma has been endorsing Epis for over 10 years now...but the guitar in this pic is definitely a Gibby...ES-345 if I'm not mistaken... Interesting neckwear he's sporting there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members csm Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 Interesting neckwear he's sporting there.. Hi! Just caught up? Oh -- I forgot -- you're ignoring me. Just like you'e ignored all the previous posts on this aspect of the topic. DO try to keep up -- there's a dear -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 23miles Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 I have seem Hot Tuna every December for the past 5 years. Both Jorma and Jack play their signature Epiphones. Jorma's Signature is essentially an Epiphone Riviera with Gibson '57 Classic Pickups through a Carr Slant 6 amplifier. Accoustic sets he usually uses a Gibson Advanced Jumbo. Last May he played a show in Troy, NY using what appeared to be a real fancy Martin D-42.Check out Jorma's gear:http://www.hottuna.com/main.php?page=gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xStonr Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 Interesting neckwear he's sporting there.. That is interesting for a converted Jew. I don't think it was worn in a hateful way but more as a sacred symbol that was used in Buddism, Hindu, and even Native Americans which of course he is I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EDS1275 Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 read the the Airplane bio and his waife was a real {censored} ....the entire band hated her. Also nazi medals were worn by lots of 60's rockers...an Fu to the older generation and to shock them as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mc5nrg Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 Unlikely that is a Nazi symbol worn to piss people off,probably some sort of Hindu/Buddhist/Native American etc. jewelry. The Swastika is an archetype that was appropriated by the 20th century German National Socialist political party. Hot Tuna go back to the very early 70s and the music ranges from very traditional country blues to near metal electric rock, depending on when and what they felt like playing at the time. Both Jorma and Jack Casady are from the DC area originally. The Furpeace (sp?) Ranch and its teaching seminars are a major priority of a somewhat less skinny Kaukonen these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlackCat Posted March 26, 2008 Members Share Posted March 26, 2008 ...He listed his gear in the concert program. See that. Gear hound. Told you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EDS1275 Posted March 26, 2008 Members Share Posted March 26, 2008 Unlikely that is a Nazi symbol worn to piss people off,probably some sort of Hindu/Buddhist/Native American etc. jewelry. The Swastika is an archetype that was appropriated by the 20th century German National Socialist political party. Maybe in this case it seems likley but in general a lot of these 60's counter culture guys wore that gear, from bikers to brian jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Loxley Posted March 26, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 26, 2008 It's definitely not of Nazi symbolism. The Nazi swastika was always at 45 degrees, never flat, and the Buddhist swastika was never at an angle, just flat. Also, notice how the arms are in reverse. The Nazis reversed this as well as tilted it 45 degrees. He's definitely not the type for shock value either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members earfurblues Posted March 26, 2008 Members Share Posted March 26, 2008 When I have a really {censored}ty day and don't really feel like rockin' out I put on Jorma's " QUAH". Best acoustic album ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members csm Posted March 26, 2008 Members Share Posted March 26, 2008 Also nazi medals were worn by lots of 60's rockers...an Fu to the older generation and to shock them as well Bikers, yes ... Hunter S Thompson commented that if the Hells Angels REALLY wanted to freak out straight society, they should wear the Hammer & Sickle instead. 60s rockers ... generally, no. Brian Jones, at the height of his addled-ness, wore a Nazi uniform for one photo, much to mass disapproval (including the other Stones) as some kind of brain-farted 'protest' gesture. In the early 70s, Keith Moon and his running buddy Vivian Stanshall of the Bonzo Dog (Doo Dah) Band, would occasionally wear Nazi costumes as a practical joke/performance art exercise. In the late 70s, a few of the dumber punks, including Sid Vicious and Siouxsie Banshee, would wear swastika armbands, but -- once again -- this was treated with scorn by the likes of Rotten and The Clash. (Was it the Dead Kennedys who later wrote Nazi Punks Funk Off?) As for Jorma K, bearing in mind the era and the Airplane's clearly-stated anti-war psychedelic-left politics, it was certainly an attempt to reclaim the original pre-Nazi significance of the ancient symbol. I fear that all such attempts will be doomed, because the Nazis would seem to have successfully co-opted and polluted the swastika for quite some time to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cravinbob Posted September 1, 2020 Members Share Posted September 1, 2020 That "swastika" is actually an ancient Sanskrit symbol denoting "well being". Hitler has way too much influence to this day and has actually hindered your education proven by your lack of curiosity of why would Jorma wear one. He wore it at Woodstock. He was college educated in Santa Clara California while also giving guitar lessons and performing, all for pay. Jefferson Airplane had to pay him a salary to get him join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xStonr Posted September 3, 2020 Members Share Posted September 3, 2020 Jorma has been having quarantine concerts every Saturday at his Fur Peace Ranch. You can view them on youtube. I think they start around 8pm EST. He's such a good player. Jorma has been heard to say "he never met a guitar he didn't like". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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