Help me ID my Kramer Please!

[thomasterrible]

I have not been able to find a site or luthier etc. to ID my Kramer.

 

I hope there is some Kramer experts out there!

 

What I have is a strat shape, ivory color, black binding, black headstock with a gold kramer logo. I got it used and is modified, but has a rosewood fretboard with dot inlays, and the black neck plate says Kramer neptune NJ

and in the middle the serial number is SE 8267.

 

It has a coil tap switch, has a floyd rose 2 trem (dont think is stock) also has a slanted full size humbucker in the bridge and two single coil sized pup cavities for middle and neck, but again all have been replaced with Seymour Duncans, so I dont know what it was stock.

 

I like the thing, not sure of the pups either but they are all true Seymours with a full size humbucker and two mini humbuckers.

 

I cant find serial number searches and it probably an 80's model but dont know.

 

Anybody know how to figure this out?

 

Thanks Much,

T

[kevinlekiller]

Not sure, I found this thread with S XXXX type serial number.

 

http://www.kramerforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9217

 

Might wanna make a thread in that forum. http://www.kramerforum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=5

[lndianScout]

[Mad Hatter]

The S was for striker but the E I don't know. It is definitely 80's because the newer ones have like 7 digit serials and no more S. The 80s all had 4-6 digits with a letter usually or 5 numbers. The E might be the month, maybe the 82 is 1982.

[Mesa/Kramer]

Check out the link below.

I don't see the SE code listed anywere here.

 

This site has more infor on Kramer guitars than anywere I have seen.

 

Look through the Catologs from the 80's they have posted on here also and maybe you can find it?

 

Does it look like this?

 

 

 

http://www.vintagekramer.com/serials.htm

[thomasterrible]

Ok,

 

Thanks everyone, I do actually really like Kramer from Seinfeld also, my favorite character...though if I had to pick between him and the nurse photo..well. Yes well at least it is a striker, that makes sense. Someone liked it and installed some nice pups, it is not quite like the one in the photo, mine has oval, not the v shaped mid and neck pup openings, it has one tone, one volume, 5 way select switch, on coil tap switch and there is a second hole next to that which has a black cover where something either used to be or was on another model. It was missing the whammy bar and one piece of the locking nut, which cost 18 bucks to fix, but I bought it for 100 bucks and really like it. I will check out the site mentioned. I will also ask how much one of these things went for stock when new. I got it at a pawn shop so will never know who put the effort in to fixing it up, but like it better than any other 100 buck guitar I have ever had.

 

Thanks Much all,

T

[Eric4542000]

I have a Kramer med 80’s with Series II Floyd Rose and Seymour Duncan’s stock

serial number SF 1856

I can’t find any information on it either but definitely is a USA MODEL and has the Black New Jersey Neptone Neck Plate

 

[badpenguin]

On 3/8/2020 at 1:55 AM, Eric4542000 said:

I have a Kramer med 80’s with Series II Floyd Rose and Seymour Duncan’s stock

serial number SF 1856

I can’t find any information on it either but definitely is a USA MODEL and has the Black New Jersey Neptone Neck Plate

 

Eric, post a pic, that will help.

Also the black neck plate and the NJ Neptune means nothing on the Kramers. Most of them, were ESP made body's and necks, and were set up in the states. The Neptune address was the corporate office, and NOT a factory.

[AJ6stringsting]

I have a proto type American Series Kramer guitar from late 1984...one of my favorite guitars !!!! 

They weren't mass produced until late 1985 / early 1986.

Edited March 17, 2020 by AJ6stringsting

[ritchiegraggmore]

Hi everyone, I'm David G. first time post here. 

I am the original owner of a Kramer Pacer I purchased brand new in 1984 from a music store named Rhythm City in Atlanta GA. 

The Serial number on the neck plate is #C0448. I'm trying to understand exactly what model my Pacer this is. I've heard in 1983 there was a one time version of Pacer named "Pacer Imperial" or "Imperial Pacer". I purchased this guitar in early 1984 and I believe it is a 1983 1st generation model with a first generation Floyd Rose tuning system.

Does anyone have any idea how or where I can get more info on this guitar based on it's serial #?

Any help is appreciated. 

Thanks David G.

 

 

[daddymack]

On 3/5/2022 at 5:03 PM, ritchiegraggmore said:

Hi everyone, I'm David G. first time post here. 

I am the original owner of a Kramer Pacer I purchased brand new in 1984 from a music store named Rhythm City in Atlanta GA. 

The Serial number on the neck plate is #C0448. I'm trying to understand exactly what model my Pacer this is. I've heard in 1983 there was a one time version of Pacer named "Pacer Imperial" or "Imperial Pacer". I purchased this guitar in early 1984 and I believe it is a 1983 1st generation model with a first generation Floyd Rose tuning system.

Does anyone have any idea how or where I can get more info on this guitar based on it's serial #?

Any help is appreciated. 

Thanks David G.

Plenty of linked data in this thread...but maybe you could try a query to Kramer? Gibson owns them now, but they may have info that would be of use to you

https://www.kramerguitars.com/en-US/

The Pacer was their first 'stock' model in the early 80s, with a Floyd Rose. Your serial # puts your guitar in the 83/84 era. The Imperial Pacer came out in 83...along with the 'hockey stick' head stock. P-ups would still be Schallers then [SDs started ~'85], necks by ESP, bodies bought from Sports Chrome.

You may find this useful:

https://reverb.com/news/80s-kramers-buyers-guide-guitar-brand-that-defined-decade?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=244170686&utm_content=campaignid=244170686_adgroupid=19499674646_keyword=_device=c_adposition=_matchtype=_creative=432737242451&gclid=Cj0KCQiA95aRBhCsARIsAC2xvfwFemP6KEjjdHRrO1iPR42XT4rx8KwpUj5h2Y8Onbpc_bUifK3Tg-MaAqoXEALw_wcB