Members Coolie No.1 Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 Ok, serious:lol: First off, what glue to use while putting back the new nut? I see the present nut is fixed and seems to be solid (I can see it is glued very well), how best to take it out? BTW, I have decided to use a pre cut Tusq nut from graphtec, unless you can tell me another source.Only thing I would have to do is sand the thickness. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members axegrinder Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 White glue is all it takes. Anything more will make future replacement unnecessarily difficult. If it is a strat/tele type nut bedded in a slot you might want to cut it lengthwise and pinch the halves togeter with pliars. I have had the end of the board crack off with the "tap" technique...won't chance that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meowy Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 Use a few drops of Elmer's or wood glue. Nothing "super" or "crazy" As far as nut removal it depends. General process - score gaps with a razor blade, heat with a blow dryer, coax (gently wedge, pry, pull, tap), repeat as necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar_stringer Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 Three drops of Titebond wood glue. Edit: TINY drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poolshark Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 String pressure does most of the nut-holding on a guitar - it hardly has to be epoxied in place. Personally, I like wood glue, but some prefer something with less stick for easier removal in the future. If you shim the nut, I'd recommend real maple; some people use business cards, but I've always felt they were too soft, though it doesn't make much difference. As far as removing your old nut, take a razor blade and score around the edges of the nut to *hopefully* break the finish seal. Then jab a knife in the side of the nut and pry carefully but firmly. Be sure to clean out the slot before you replace the nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbrown49 Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 String pressure does most of the nut-holding on a guitar - it hardly has to be epoxied in place. Personally, I like wood glue, but some prefer something with less stick for easier removal in the future. If you shim the nut, I'd recommend real maple; some people use business cards, but I've always felt they were too soft, though it doesn't make much difference. Exactly right. The purpose of the glue is just to hold the nut on when the strings are off pretty much. I put a couple small drops of wood glue on, and that's plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members atrox Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 Three drops of Titebond wood glue. That is a tad bit overkill. Depends on the size of the drop though. One drop is enough either way. I use 1 drop of viscous (20 or 30) Hot Stuff (Super Glue). Normally this is probably overkill if done wrong, but if you do it right, it makes for very easy removal with no cleanup of the nut slot. I say the above with the very important disclaimer that if you do it wrong, that nut will be a bitch to get out. For an amateur, I suggest one drop of Elmers or wood glue. It leaves a bit messier residue should you need to take the nut off than my method, but at least you won't be welding it in there by accident. As far as the reason why my method works, it's how I apply the glue and how long I wait till I actually install the nut after I put the glue on the nut. It guarantees a clean slot every time if you needed to pull the nut again. Adding a viscous drop and waiting for the glue to stiffen a bit will almost "plasticize" the glue preventing it from actually entering the grain of the nut slot, yet provides enough ooomph to hold it. However it comes out easily and cleanly. Elmers or wood glue is guaranteed to enter the grain. That is fine, but it will take some cleaning up usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MahaloVision Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 Just a touch of elmer's white glue. I've never had a problem removing them with just a tap of the nylon hammer. If you've got some hot hide glue warmed up, that's another good choice. I wouldn't have any problem with a drop of superglue, either. The important thing is to score the finish if the nut was installed prior to finishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coolie No.1 Posted February 3, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 Great info. thank all, I am going to try this soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cincy_cosmo Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 Another vote for light Elmer's. You or whoever is owning your guitar at the next nut replacement will thank you for using the least amount possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mind Riot Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 Nothing wrong with superglue, it's what I've always used. Doesn't take much to hold a nut in, you just need something to keep it from falling off when you're changing strings. One or two drops of super glue will do it. What is it with everybody on the forums having such strong opinions on everything these days? Virtually any glue will work, and if you don't overdo it future removal shouldn't be a problem with any of them. Sometimes people make it sound like if you use the wrong stuff your guitar will burst into flames or something. One of the nice things about superglue is that it's brittle when dried, so while it holds strong it also breaks the bond easily with a little shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members atrox Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 Nothing wrong with superglue, it's what I've always used. Doesn't take much to hold a nut in, you just need something to keep it from falling off when you're changing strings. One or two drops of super glue will do it. What is it with everybody on the forums having such strong opinions on everything these days? Virtually any glue will work, and if you don't overdo it future removal shouldn't be a problem with any of them. Sometimes people make it sound like if you use the wrong stuff your guitar will burst into flames or something. One of the nice things about superglue is that it's brittle when dried, so while it holds strong it also breaks the bond easily with a little shock. Are you me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meowy Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 One of the nice things about superglue is that it's brittle when dried, so while it holds strong it also breaks the bond easily with a little shock. Super glue is much brighter sounding than elmers or wood glue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members radonballoon Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 just how often do you guys change nuts on guitars? some of you make it sound like you replace the nut as general maintenance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mind Riot Posted February 4, 2009 Members Share Posted February 4, 2009 just how often do you guys change nuts on guitars? some of you make it sound like you replace the nut as general maintenance. It's not a matter of replacing the nut on one guitar over and over, but those of us who make a habit of either fixing up multiple guitars of our own or working on other people's guitars have to deal with it. I've fixed up over a dozen of my own guitars that I either still have or have since sold, I've built a guitar from scratch with two more on the way, and I've worked on guitars for at least a dozen other people. THAT'S A LOTTA NUTS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sleepeatplay Posted February 4, 2009 Members Share Posted February 4, 2009 Mind Riot I just read your Loudness Wars Link. Interesting. But to stay on topic, I've never replaced a nut, but I think I'm going to give it a shot with a tusq nut on my tele. You guys give good advice here and help make this forum a better place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mind Riot Posted February 4, 2009 Members Share Posted February 4, 2009 Mind Riot I just read your Loudness Wars Link. Interesting. But to stay on topic, I've never replaced a nut, but I think I'm going to give it a shot with a tusq nut on my tele. You guys give good advice here and help make this forum a better place. The Loudness Wars are the single most destructive development in music technology of the last several decades. If the world ever figures it out en masse, people will be buying remasters of remasters to try to undo the damage. If you want to get deeper into a potential solution, look up Bob Katz' K-system. But it is a bit much to wrap your head around, took me awhile to get it, it's a bit abstract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MahaloVision Posted February 4, 2009 Members Share Posted February 4, 2009 just how often do you guys change nuts on guitars? some of you make it sound like you replace the nut as general maintenance. Every time I do a fret job or refinish. I've done a couple replacements on busted nuts, and some on "blown" nuts where people cut the grooves too low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members moctzal Posted February 4, 2009 Members Share Posted February 4, 2009 Three drops of Titebond wood glue.Edit: TINY drops. This. Any wood glue or white glue (Elmer's) would work too. Make sure the drops are tiny. The strings will keep it from going anywhere, the glue is just to keep it on the right spot during string removal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members megawzrd Posted February 4, 2009 Members Share Posted February 4, 2009 superglue...a couple of drops spaced apart does the trick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members voxfreak Posted February 4, 2009 Members Share Posted February 4, 2009 i dont put glue on my nuts, that would be painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belva Posted February 5, 2009 Members Share Posted February 5, 2009 just how often do you guys change nuts on guitars? some of you make it sound like you replace the nut as general maintenance.:thu:Some people just like to pull their nuts out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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