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    Does anyone know if there are any nylon string 12s in existence? I did a quick search on the web and there seems to have been a couple made by obscure luthiers. It seems like an interesting idea, sort of like a cross between a guitar and a lute.

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    Originally posted by nellsalot
    Does anyone know if there are any nylon string 12s in existence? I did a quick search on the web and there seems to have been a couple made by obscure luthiers. It seems like an interesting idea, sort of like a cross between a guitar and a lute.


    The guitar eveloved from the lute, and all guitars were origionally gut strung, later nylon, before steel strung came along. It only in recent history that classical strings gained wound treble strings in terms of the history of the guitar.

    The lute was basically a 12 string short scale guitar, I have a great illustrated history of the guitar which describes this evolution in some detail.

    You will probably find it possible to order a 12 string Nylon from most smaller manufacturers, though I cannot recall ever having seen one, other than in books of course, but that doesn't really count.

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    • #3
      I have heard of people playing 10 string classical guitars. Try the following links:

      http://www.tenstringguitar.com/pages/1/index.htm

      http://decava.com/ten%20string.htm

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      • #4
        I've seen two in my life...one, that was made in the Phillipines, about 20 years ago (made by a local builder and I think they're not uncommon there) and the other was made from a very nice Yamaha classical...it had been in a car-wreck and the neck was broken, so a friend's son, who is a very good luthier-in-training, built a neck for it, just to see how it would work...I'm trying to talk him into selling it to me!

        Both are set up as "double fundamental", not octave strung, btw.

        I've read that Leo Kottke has a custom-built one, too...maybe a Kohno.

        Also, I've seen 12-string folklauts (guitar-strung lutes from Germany).
        God(s) bless the rest of the world(s), too

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        • #5
          Hmm, very interesting. I hadn't heard of these, but I definitely want to see one.

          Nylon-string archtops are pretty neat, too.
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          • #6
            Not to forget the Godin multiac 11-string nylons. These I understand are made to work like 12-strin steel strings.
            Along the fretboard of life, there's a chord for every occasion.

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            • #7
              I've got one DiegoRoque.

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              • #8
                12 years to reply and that's all you've got?

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                • #9
                  Never new this site existed. Read my post.

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                  • #10
                    Oh cool - welcome to the forum! If you were wondering why you haven't had any replies to your photo it looks like you've posted it as a visitor message to your own user so nobody will have seen it I don't think.

                    Cool looking guitar! I can't imagine what it's like to get/keep in tune based on my experience with nylon strings.

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                    • #11
                      No problem. So many ways to string it. So far high tension nylon with steel octives. 12 nylon high plus medium nylon octives. .next 6 medium 6 low tension nylon octives with standard tuning.

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                      • #12
                        My 12 string guitar has high tension nylon main strings (with a wound G) and nickel-steel octave strings.



                        Howard

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                        • #13
                          How's the intonation with that plan?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Grant Harding View Post
                            How's the intonation with that plan?
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                            Pretty good - within a few cents on all strings at the 12th fret - certainly as good as any other 12 string I've played. I suspect you might have problems if you used a monofilament G string but the wound G works fine and its narrower width fits in better with the set.

                            For anyone interested, the main set strings are La Bellla 850W (E and B strings are gold monofilament nylon, G to E strings are bronze wound on multifilament nylon). The octaves are nickel-steel (electric guitar) strings of gauges: 09, 11, 08, 12, 16, 24
                            Howard

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                            • #15
                              Is it hard to keep it in tune?
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