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    i got a 2018 Fender Deluxe strat with noiseless pups that sound nothing like a Fender.I got it to play surf music mainly plus a little blues. Any replacement pups opinions? Plus anybody else dislike the noiseless?
    Last edited by poppytater; 06-11-2019, 10:31 AM.
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    Originally posted by poppytater View Post
    i got a 2018 Fender Deluxe strat with noiseless pups that sound nothing like a Fender.I got it to play surf music mainly plus a little blues. Any replacement pups opinions? Plus anybody else dislike the noiseless?
    I have noiseless on a tele and while they do give me nice sound they're just not the same as true single coils.
    Volume wise the single coils on my strat blow it away .
    I like the guitar for certain things so I keep it as it is

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    • #3
      If you need that irritating treble, try Kinman unless you were referring to Kinman which have that irritating treble I'm thinking you were referring to unless you weren't then try Kinman.
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      • #4
        Bad ones suck, but there are amazing ones too. No idea what the Kinman reference above is, but I think they're really good.

        My favourites are from Tom Anderson. The SF and SC models are the ones:

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        • #5
          I’ve got a set of SCN’s in my Tele. They actually have fairly high output, and enough treble to peel paint. I need to roll back the tone control a bit with them, but I actually do like them.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by poppytater View Post
            i got a 2018 Fender Deluxe strat with noiseless pups that sound nothing like a Fender.I got it to play surf music mainly plus a little blues. Any replacement pups opinions? Plus anybody else dislike the noiseless?
            What sucks for you is what others love. I think strats in general suck, but I love the 2 and 4 position, so I have one JUST for that sound.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by badpenguin View Post

              What sucks for you is what others love. I think strats in general suck, but I love the 2 and 4 position, so I have one JUST for that sound.
              And the nice thing about positions 2 / 4 is that if the middle pickup is RWRP, it kills the noise in those positions too.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by badpenguin View Post

                What sucks for you is what others love. I think strats in general suck, but I love the 2 and 4 position, so I have one JUST for that sound.
                I bought a Strat for the neck pickup. It took me a little while to really appreciate the 2 and 4 pos. .Now they're all I want to use

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                • #9
                  but especially in 2 and 4 positions is where noisless pickups suck most, because the double canceling ("humbucker" in parallel with another "humbucker") affects the frequency response much more than just having just two single coils canceling the hum.
                  this is where noiseless pu lose their chime and jangle sound in a strat

                  if really its the main reason using 2 / 4 position, just use normal singlecoils, e.g. texas special or just stock std pu's and you have all a strat magic you ever wanted... yes there will be hum in 1, 3 or 5... but so what?

                  ps i have a strat with kinmans and i have one with stock std pu's, i thought i would also put kinmans in the later one when i put it together but first started with the old stock pu i had at home.
                  and i tested it out, and really they have more jangle and twang than the kinmans,so a kept them to have both options and pick the one which most suited for my playing situation.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by t_e_l_e View Post
                    but especially in 2 and 4 positions is where noisless pickups suck most, because the double canceling ("humbucker" in parallel with another "humbucker") affects the frequency response much more than just having just two single coils canceling the hum.
                    this is where noiseless pu lose their chime and jangle sound in a strat

                    if really its the main reason using 2 / 4 position, just use normal singlecoils, e.g. texas special or just stock std pu's and you have all a strat magic you ever wanted... yes there will be hum in 1, 3 or 5... but so what?.
                    My thoughts exactly,.well almost because mine has a bridge bucker.and I never use 3 . So the neck has hum ,so what. It's actually a well made guitar and even the neck doesn't hum that much No problem
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                    • #11
                      I have an American made Fender Strat with LKace pups in it. It sounds like a stat too me.

                      Clapton had Lace pups in his strats for a while.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by gardo View Post

                        I bought a Strat for the neck pickup. It took me a little while to really appreciate the 2 and 4 pos. .Now they're all I want to use
                        The 2, 4 and then N + B, all coils sounds are what got my attention but I grew into bluesy neck, and bluesy bridge; trebly driven neck/ dark flugelhorn ish bridge.
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                        • #13
                          The issue with positions 2 and 4 is that they're lower output, so if you don't turn the amp up a bit they sound meh compared to the individual pickups. Once you turn up the magic is there.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Grant Harding View Post
                            The issue with positions 2 and 4 is that they're lower output, so if you don't turn the amp up a bit they sound meh compared to the individual pickups. Once you turn up the magic is there.
                            This is why it took me a while to appreciate the 2 and 4 pos.

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