Members Chordite Posted November 20, 2018 Members Share Posted November 20, 2018 Hopefully a simple oneTone pot has gone on my trusty old encore strat copy. I haven' t opened it yet. Thinking I might as well change the works, ordering 3 pots and 5-way.People say rightly or wrongly that pots effect tone even zeroed (tone sharpest, volume maxed) . I don't know how true that is.If so which will give the softer jazzier tone 500k or 250k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted November 20, 2018 Moderators Share Posted November 20, 2018 if they are all single coil, I would go with the 250k ohm standard. CTS or Bourns preferred... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted November 20, 2018 Members Share Posted November 20, 2018 Wow. You'll never guess what I thought of when I first saw the word "Pot," LOL. 250K absolutely. A guitar pickup has a peak at 3 or 4 KHz and a higher value pot will accentuate the peak more. It will also roll off the treble at a lower frequency when you engage the tone control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members badpenguin Posted November 21, 2018 Members Share Posted November 21, 2018 for the tone, I like a D 500K pot. Alphas are generally used, but since discovering the D pot by Cort in Ibanez's, I have sworn by them since. What's the difference? Haven't a clue, but I know they have a better taper then the standard A pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Freeman Keller Posted November 21, 2018 Members Share Posted November 21, 2018 As others have said, 250K matches with single coils. My feeling is that there is little difference in the quality of any of the good domestic manufactures, other have strong feelings about things like that. Be aware that potentiometers come with different shaft lengths and configurations (splined/split for push on knobs, solid for set screw). Also, you do not want linear taper, be sure they are logarithmic ("audio taper") For a good understanding of your guitars controls (and a lot of myths) go down about half way and start watching the vids http://www.annarborguitars.com/styled-4/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted November 21, 2018 Members Share Posted November 21, 2018 Cap matters too. I stick with the "standard" .22 but other values may better zone the control to your liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chordite Posted November 21, 2018 Author Members Share Posted November 21, 2018 So we are settled comfortably on 250k - then along comes badpenguin lol. Okay I'll order 250k logs and one 500 to experiment Thanks everyone ps I forgot to mention that it is HSS, but I mostly use the neck or neck and middle combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted November 21, 2018 Moderators Share Posted November 21, 2018 yeah, I thought that too, but I came in anyhow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted November 21, 2018 Moderators Share Posted November 21, 2018 Being a HSS configuration, there are other options like coil tapping the humbucker via a push/pull pot...also, is one of the single coil p-ups [typically the mid position] reverse wound? Before you run out to the electronics shop, pull the pickguard and look at the existing pots and wiring. It is possible that the volume control is a 500k for the humbucker...which opens up a small can of worms about the bleed cap values to keep the single coils from dumping too much treble as the volume pot is rolled off...but as you are looking for a 'darker' [jazzier] tone, that may work in your favor... Simple question, many answers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grant Harding Posted November 21, 2018 Members Share Posted November 21, 2018 If you're doing that much to it I'd also stick a treble bleed capacitor+resistor (Stewmac sells them pre-wired for convenience) and put a push/push pot on the tone control that turns the bridge pickup on no matter what the blade switch is on. That gives the Neck+Bridge option which has a nice Tele sound to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted November 21, 2018 Members Share Posted November 21, 2018 Thanks. Glad I'm not alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted November 22, 2018 Members Share Posted November 22, 2018 very much enlightened by those videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chordite Posted November 22, 2018 Author Members Share Posted November 22, 2018 Okay opened it up and (you knew this would happen ) -- everything is 500k with a .047 cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted November 22, 2018 Members Share Posted November 22, 2018 47 always sounded muffled to me. I was surprised it's in some Teles. Did you watch those videos Freeman linked to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chordite Posted November 22, 2018 Author Members Share Posted November 22, 2018 The first one. Tone control is not 'resonant frequency' issue more a matter of more signal being bypassed to ground through a cap as the frequency increases. I'll watch more later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted November 22, 2018 Members Share Posted November 22, 2018 In the taper comparison he compared the vol pot with overdrive and demonstrated that both work in unique ways. Now I want both tapers for volume. Gotta find a stacked one with both tapers. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chordite Posted November 22, 2018 Author Members Share Posted November 22, 2018 Yeah there's a lot of that going on, Grant is persuading me that I need to combine a 'neck and bridge' position into the wiring. Up until today I was quite happy just flipping between neck and first quack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted November 22, 2018 Members Share Posted November 22, 2018 Carvin Bolts have 7 combinations from 3 singles or 15 (if memory serves) with a splitable bridge HB. (4 coils) Thrills for a while, then amusement, now I just use the standard neck or bridge with some manner of drive/distortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted November 22, 2018 Members Share Posted November 22, 2018 Okay opened it up and (you knew this would happen ) -- everything is 500k with a .047 cap. .047µF? I have a .047µF cap in my bass, for cryin' out loud. Personally I'd avoid anything higher but 250K pots might be an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grant Harding Posted November 23, 2018 Members Share Posted November 23, 2018 I don't think it's necessary, but I find it useful. Mine is HHH with splitting, so I need this to get a dual neck+bridge humbucker sound as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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