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  • #61
    Beautiful, Freeman.

    I see you made two control cavity covers---looks like one 'hog and one flamed maple. Good idea!

    I sure hope that isn't one of Mrs. Keller's good hand towels
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    Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read
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    • #62
      While I patiently wait for the finish to cure I though I would go ahead and do the frets. I've got several leveling beams - most of them have 120 on one side and 300 or 400 on the other. Started by filing the ends back to the edge of the f/b at 50 or 60 degrees. Then marked the crowns and leveled them

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      Recrowned as required

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      Knocked the edges off the ends. The little metal thing is a draft persons eraser shield - in another life I was an engineer

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      Polished up thru the grits starting at 400 and going to 2000. The little white thing is an ordinary eraser - its a good way to hold the paper. I also wrap it over the edge of a crowning file and use it just like the file - you can see the marks on the fine paper.

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      I'll come back to it during the setup phase but this is OK for now

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      • #63
        Some of the most tedious, yet most satisfying, guitar work to be done.

        I messed up a lot of fretwork before I finally became satisfied with my results.

        Cheers, Freeman, keep it coming
        Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend
        Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read
        -Groucho Marx

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        • Freeman Keller
          Freeman Keller commented
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          Frets are the interface between the player and the guitar. They area also the key to perfect playability.

        • Danocoustic
          Danocoustic commented
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          Tell me when you reach "perfect". I've settled for "pretty damned good".

      • #64
        OK, I have two weeks on the finish cure and its raining out so its time to buff it out, Here is a close up of the top finish, you can see that its kind of shiny but also kind of rough. Some dust, a couple of little sags - not a bad paint job for a novice. A little dimple right at at the edge. I figured it was good enough to start sanding at 800 and go up to 1500.

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        Here is the top after wet sanding

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        Buffed with Meguiers number 2 and 3, mostly using my crappy pedestal buffer but doing the edges and horn with a foam pad in a drill motor

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        Here's the top and head after buffing

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        and the back

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        Time to start building this puppy up

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        • #65
          That's coming along quite nicely. Every time I say I don't like Teles, or that I think they're butt ugly, another one comes along to change my mind. It figures one of yours would be do same.
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          • #66
            It is a beautiful beasty, that at first I thought.. "What, no F hole?? Really???" Then as she progressed, the simple elegance of the top showed. Again, a breathtaking piece of work Freeman.
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            • #67
              Thanks for the nice comments. Today I soldered down the remaining wires and screwed the shiny bits on it. Made a nut

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              I know, you've seen all that before. Sorry, it has to be done each time..

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              • #68
                Since I can only put five pictures in a post, here is the nut mostly made

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                Its still a little on the high side but its much easier to take it down than up.

                Did the rest of the initial setup - tension pulled about 5 thousands of relief, I backed that off a hair. First fret is 18 to 20 thou, 12th is 60 to 80. Intonation is pretty close so I'll play it this way and tweak it in few days.

                Took it in the house and introduced it to Lester

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                I'll do some better pictures in a day or two, right now I just want to play with my new toy.




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                • #69
                  Quite nice indeed. I just realized (again) that a big part of the general butt ugly-ness I find in Teles is the control plate. Yours would be much the worse with one added.
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                  • #70
                    Woo hoo!

                    That's a real beauty! Amazing to watch it come together like that.

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                    • #71
                      incredible work , I've ben eagerly followng every step Thank you for taking the time to document and share the process .I am truely envious of your skill. It really is a work of art
                      But ,it's like a lady once told me "show just enough to make them look and hide enough to keep them guessing because the mystery is most enticing" I'm in the minority opinion here but I think a telecaster without some sort of pickgaurd or something is still a generic slab of wood no matter how nicely done
                      Hate on me all you want but it's my opinion

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                      • Grant Harding
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                        I'm really considering putting a clear one on the Barncaster because I'm playing it so much and the soft pine is starting to show some wear. I'd happily let it relic to the max, but I know how you feel about that.

                      • t_e_l_e
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                        you are not the only one, who thinks witthout a pickguards its looks kinda naked...

                        still great work and piece of art, but not exactly what my taste prefers

                      • DeepEnd
                        DeepEnd commented
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                        I can take or leave the pickguard as long as there's no control plate but I do like the look sans pickguard. My Schecter doesn't have one and I neither need nor want one on it.

                    • #72
                      Man oh man is that ever pretty! Incredible workmanship there and I love the top sans pickguard. Too pretty to cover up!

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                      • #73
                        Shoulda painted it flat black
                        Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend
                        Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read
                        -Groucho Marx

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                        • Phil O'Keefe
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                          But he didn't - so there!

                      • #74
                        But the biggest question is how does it play
                        Do you notice a tonal difference with the chambered body

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                        • #75
                          Originally posted by gardo View Post
                          But the biggest question is how does it play
                          Do you notice a tonal difference with the chambered body
                          This first thing you notice when you pick this puppy up is just how incredibly light it actually is. It weighs 5 lb 13 oz on my postage scale - my hollow arch top is 6 lb 8, the chambered LP thing is 7 lb 10, my solid Lester is 9 lb 3. I'm tempted to take the scale down to the music store to weigh a "real" tele.

                          Second thing I notice when comparing to the LP is that unplugged it has a lot more "acoustic" presence. Neither one sounds good unplugged, but the tele seems considerably louder. We could speculate all day how that affects the plugged sound, and of course there are so many differences between them that the point is moot - but something for sure is moving a little bit more air.

                          The ergonomics seem fine - I like the neck shape (remember its based on a LP), the fret board is 12 inch and just a hair wider than most tele. I do notice the flat body - I'm used to angled necks and curved tops.

                          How does it sound plugged? It sounds like a tele, at least what I think a tele should sound like. Remember, I'm not an electric player, I've only rarely played other telecasters (and mostly those were ones that I built). Remember too that these are pretty generic pickups - I happened to have two StewMac "golden age" pups - I bought them for something else and so thats what I used ). I've used these in a couple of the barncasters and people seem to like them so for right now I'll leave them in. (Grant will be really disappointed, I promise one of these days to order a set from Fralin.....

                          With both my LP clone and the jazz guitar I tend to play thru my home made tube amp with no effects - just pure and clean. I play more on the neck pickup too - I've become spoiled by the lush sounds. The tele I've plugged into a cheap Fender practice amp that has a bunch of different "voices" - it seems to prefer just a little clipping. I don't know much about effects but I have a multi effect thing that I may experiment with. I'm way too old to be a shredder.

                          So, short story, I like the way it sounds, it will supplement my other two electrics rather than replacing them. I certainly am sold on the whole idea of chambering - both the chambered LP and this convince me it is worth while. I like the woods and finish, altho I'll admit that its a little more than I expect of a telecaster.

                          Final note, I always do a spreadsheet of the costs just for my records. This was kind of interesting - every thing involved came out of my stock. Sure, I bought it some time but the records are lost and it was basically like building for free. I bought two sticks of fret wire but didn't use them, a quart of lacquer and a 30 dollar gig bag. Maybe I need to look in boxes under the work bench more often.

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                          • Grant Harding
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                            For the record, the Fralins have been replaced with TV Jones Starwood Tele set and it just came alive. I knew when I ordered the Fralins that they were really low output by design. While they sounded really good, the TV Jones are more what I want.

                          • Freeman Keller
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                            Good thing I waited, eh?

                          • Grant Harding
                            Grant Harding commented
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                            I'm still a huge Fralin fan. His Blues Special set is what that guitar wants, but decided to try the TV Jones.
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