Members Marshalljl Posted January 9, 2018 Members Share Posted January 9, 2018 I’ve tried neck bending and it sounds cool and is a pretty good alternative to a tremblo but it can’t be good for the guitar... Anyone know anything about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jtr654 Posted January 9, 2018 Members Share Posted January 9, 2018 Yeah I 've seen neck joints loosen to the point that they had to be reset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted January 9, 2018 Members Share Posted January 9, 2018 I used to do it on sustained song endings and such. The amount of actual pitch change is pretty limited depending on the type of neck. A thicker neck doesn't give at all. In any case its not a substitute for a vibrato or regular string bending and over use can cause truss problems, especially on cheaper necks. You could simply buy a pitch bender pedal if your guitar doesn't facilitate the installation of a whammy. My buddy used one in his Boss multi effects unit that was very impressive. It didn't suffer from the digital artifacts associates with many older pitch shifters and had an excellent lock on the string which allowed smooth bends up to a full octave range on a note using an expression pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chordite Posted January 9, 2018 Members Share Posted January 9, 2018 If you can afford the guitars go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I remember Pat Travers doing it back in the 70s... IIRC, he broke a couple of necks that way. I wouldn't really recommend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gardo Posted January 9, 2018 Members Share Posted January 9, 2018 What da Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted January 9, 2018 Members Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just learn to play slide. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mikeo Posted January 9, 2018 Members Share Posted January 9, 2018 I don't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members halfnote Posted January 10, 2018 Members Share Posted January 10, 2018 I myself don't do it but I've seen many who do & seem to have no prob.Even Jeff Beck, who has a whole array of bending techniques (standard string bends, vibrato bar, bending behind the bridge, above the nut & pushing the neck,& sometimes uses diff ones in a single song, includes that as one of his tricks. I'd say that if yer careful not to do more than a gentle push from the back it might be OK.It might also best ( & most effectively ) be done w/ bolt-on necks. In looking for a vid example of Beck, I just came across something I'd not seen before---bending the neck back to raise the pitch ![video=youtube;-Z7dF0FfZTQ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted January 11, 2018 Members Share Posted January 11, 2018 Its like playing pinball. Some just use the flippers and some wiggle the whole machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ComingApart Posted January 29, 2018 Members Share Posted January 29, 2018 I've done it for years, to all my guitars. expensive, cheat, bolt neck, set neck, etc. you don't use alot of pressure, it's a very subtle bend. I'm sure cranking on it could lead to problems, but have sense about it and use your ears. it doesn't take much movement at all to get a noticeable pitch change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brucebennett Posted February 4, 2018 Members Share Posted February 4, 2018 I've recently seen a "larger than normal" amount of Fender necks that have "run out of truss rod adjustment" and ALL of them had 2 common factors.1. they were all within the date range of 2002-2013 and has the newer style Allen wrench adjusting nut behind the string nut.2.. all of the owners admitted to neck bending/flexing as a "normal part" of their playing technique. being curious, I took one of these necks apart and found that the machined area just behind the truss rod nut inside the neck was "compressed and widened" to the point of the nut sorta "pulled its way through" and then ran out of thread on the rod. this area is "spot faced machined" to be just a small amount larger the adjusting nut, but the hole for the rod itself is only 3/32 smaller than the adjuster nut hole and the space between them is only 1/4" thick. IMHO thi si not enough "meat" to handle the pressure over long periods of time. I would deem this a "design flaw" and for those that don't know me, I use the "quotes" to call attention to that fact that I'm using somewhat subjective wording and that some folks may interpret this in a manner not consistent with my original meaning. so to the OPs original question, I've never told anyone that neck bending/flexing presents any kind of an issue... until now. and its ONLY due to a obvious design change on (so far) one specific range of guitar models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grant Harding Posted February 4, 2018 Members Share Posted February 4, 2018 I struggle to get even a little bit of "neck vibrato" on my Anderson. Not sure if it's the good neck join, double-action truss rod, or the solid rosewood neck. Stays in tune like a boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AJ6stringsting Posted February 10, 2018 Members Share Posted February 10, 2018 I've seen disasters when people do the neck bending on Les Paul's .... Don't ever do it on a glued in neck SG, it's heart ( neck ) breaking !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Freeman Keller Posted February 10, 2018 Members Share Posted February 10, 2018 I've seen disasters when people do the neck bending on Les Paul's .... Don't ever do it on a glued in neck SG' date=' it's heart ( neck ) breaking !!!![/quote'] This is a 1977 (I think) LP Custom. Yeah. Its sitting in the corner of my shop right now. I could fix it if the owner hadn't already tried - he used Gorilla glue, didn't prepare or clamp it properly, generally just mucked it up totally. Poor baby [ATTACH=JSON]{"alt":"Click image for larger versionName:\tIMG_4043-2.jpgViews:\t1Size:\t162.9 KBID:\t32162212","data-align":"none","data-attachmentid":32162213,"data-size":"custom","height":"1067","title":"IMG_4043-2.jpg","width":"1600"}[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members C-4 Posted April 12, 2018 Members Share Posted April 12, 2018 I remember Pat Travers doing it back in the 70s... IIRC, he broke a couple of necks that way. I wouldn't really recommend it. I was more forgiving in my younger playing days, but I quickly wised up. I had lent a custom-made Gibson Les Paul to someone who I was told was a great player, who was asked to sit in with our band back in the early 1970's. During the song he was sitting in for, he reached up and pulled the peg head of my LP and I heard a snapping sound. This guy had just disconnected the truss rod in the guitar. I had to send it back to Gibson in Kalamazoo. The work was very expensive to repair, and refinish this guitar. Now, I don't even want people to look at my gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I was more forgiving in my younger playing days, but I quickly wised up. I had lent a custom-made Gibson Les Paul to someone who I was told was a great player, who was asked to sit in with our band back in the early 1970's. During the song he was sitting in for, he reached up and pulled the peg head of my LP and I heard a snapping sound. This guy had just disconnected the truss rod in the guitar. I had to send it back to Gibson in Kalamazoo. The work was very expensive to repair, and refinish this guitar. Now, I don't even want people to look at my gear. Ouch! Hopefully the guy at least paid for the damage he did... but somehow I doubt it. I had a brand new Les Paul in the mid-90s that I loaned to someone, and they brought it back with a bunch of belt buckle rash on the back. I'm a lot more cautious about who I lend my guitars to now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 That just hurts to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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