Members wagdog Posted December 21, 2011 Members Share Posted December 21, 2011 Had some time today to crank up and record 5 of my amps clean channel (where channels were an option) with mostly the same riff/chords. Cranked up the twin pretty loud in an attempt to get some kinda crunch - not much there. Guitar was a stock srv strat neck/mid pickup Anyway, here's the clip: http://soundcloud.com/wagdog-1/allamps 0:00 - Twin (project amp, 4x6V6)0:24 - Champ (project amp, 6L6 8" and 10" speaker)0:46 - Peavey Classic Head and 4x10 (stock)1:11 - Hot Rod Deluxe (stock)1:40 - Rivera Clubster 45 (stock) EDIT:Here's the same amps, same order, same guitar (neck pickup only though), but with a seymour duncan twin tube classic overdrive (lead channel) in front of 'em. http://soundcloud.com/wagdog-1/allamps-od-strat That overdrive definitely brings out the differences in those amps. My ears are ringing from the twin. EDIT AGAIN:Getting kinda carried away here, but, after I did the OD clip above, I did roughly the same take w/a baja tele and the OD. Here is a clip of the same amps, in the same order, but through the magic of reaper, first the strat, then the tele, same amp, same settings: http://soundcloud.com/wagdog-1/allamps-od-strat-tele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EvilMinstrel Posted December 21, 2011 Members Share Posted December 21, 2011 I think it gets difficult, and I wonder if m opinion would change if they were presented in a different order. I liked the Twin the best though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slushpup96 Posted December 21, 2011 Members Share Posted December 21, 2011 1st one was my favorite. Nice clip, Nice playing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frets99 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Peavey Classic was my favorite. Sounded immediate and full. Strong presence and best balance between bass and treble. Hot Rod Deluxe has probably the best overall character and personality. Very sweet.I initially liked the Rivera Pubster but after the Classic and HDR it sounds a touch like a muffled HDR.I like the Champ because it sounds raw and real.Interestingly in this group I found the Twin to be my least favorite. Too bassy and not enough presence. YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted December 21, 2011 Members Share Posted December 21, 2011 I liked the Champ the best followed by the Rivera. I think some more knob tweaking was in order for both but I liked them because they sounded the most distinct to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billybilly Posted December 21, 2011 Members Share Posted December 21, 2011 I liked the Champ the best and although it didn't have the fullness of some of the others, it was balanced and clear. Thanks for doing this, I love these kind of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistersully Posted December 21, 2011 Members Share Posted December 21, 2011 cool clip... i liked the champ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wagdog Posted December 21, 2011 Author Members Share Posted December 21, 2011 I liked the Champ the best followed by the Rivera. I think some more knob tweaking was in order for both but I liked them because they sounded the most distinct to me. I do like that Champ (built that one and am building another). I've gigged the rivera a few times, and the clean channel cranked is just magic on that thing. Thanks for the listens and comments folks - appreciate that you took the time. It was very instructive for me to hear the amps while NOT playing through them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danswon Posted December 21, 2011 Members Share Posted December 21, 2011 Twin and Rivera are my favourites. Would like to hear another comparison with 'buckers, also maybe one with an overdrive on same settings in front of each amp. Thanks for the demo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BoneNut Posted December 21, 2011 Members Share Posted December 21, 2011 Champ and Peavey Classic for me. Great thread man! Thanks for taking the time to do this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wagdog Posted December 21, 2011 Author Members Share Posted December 21, 2011 Champ and Peavey Classic for me.Great thread man! Thanks for taking the time to do this one! Cool. Thanks for your feedback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scuzzo Posted December 21, 2011 Members Share Posted December 21, 2011 seems to my ears the twin verb and the champ seem to have a bit more clarity and detail.. so thats what i dig... nice work on the tone sample.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sheraton Posted December 21, 2011 Members Share Posted December 21, 2011 Interesting test. First time through listening to the whole thing in sequence I like the Twin the most. Then I jumped around from section to section and my opinion changed. I'm not sure which I ultimately liked best but the Twin and HRD are similar and I would put them in 1 category. The Champ and Rivera were also similar and I would call that another. The Peavey was somewhere in the middle. I suppose if I had to pick purely on this clip I'd chose the HRD and that surprises me a little. I just listened again and I can't pick. I really liked the Peavey this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sxyryan Posted December 21, 2011 Members Share Posted December 21, 2011 Loving the Peavey, I tend to be biased towards them though, haha. The champ was cool too. This is a neat experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wagdog Posted December 21, 2011 Author Members Share Posted December 21, 2011 Loving the Peavey, I tend to be biased towards them though, haha.The champ was cool too. This is a neat experiment. I do like that peavey. When I bought it, it was broken and I bought it w/the intention of fixing it and selling. Once I fixed it, and heard it, I was like, hmmmmm.... don't really want to sell that! Here's the same amps, same order, same guitar (neck pickup only though), but with a seymour duncan twin tube classic overdrive (lead channel) in front of 'em. http://soundcloud.com/wagdog-1/allamps-od-strat That overdrive definitely brings out the differences in those amps. My ears are ringing from the twin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danswon Posted December 21, 2011 Members Share Posted December 21, 2011 In the world of guitar forums, well-recorded gear clips reign supreme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BeanoBoy Posted December 21, 2011 Members Share Posted December 21, 2011 I liked the Peavey on the cleanish clips and the Twin ( which howled, no doubt moving serious air)) and Peavey on the overdrive. Cool idea! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistersully Posted December 21, 2011 Members Share Posted December 21, 2011 It's a definitely a fun amp to play through. I've done a couple gigs w/it and it sounds great mixed in w/a band. yeah to me it sounds like it would sit nicely in a mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wagdog Posted December 21, 2011 Author Members Share Posted December 21, 2011 yeah to me it sounds like it would sit nicely in a mix That it does. I posted this jam a month or so ago: http://www.johnnywag.com/index.php/download_file/view/11/69/ - that's the first gig where I played the champ out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benzem Posted December 22, 2011 Members Share Posted December 22, 2011 Clean I liked the HRD best, twin and PV 2nd. Didn't like the Riv..too muffled. W/dirt I liked the Classic best, and really liked the Riviera too. All sounded damn good tho:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wagdog Posted December 22, 2011 Author Members Share Posted December 22, 2011 Clean I liked the HRD best, twin and PV 2nd. Didn't like the Riv..too muffled.W/dirt I liked the Classic best, and really liked the Riviera too.All sounded damn good tho:thu: Thanks man. That rivera likes to be cranked up, that's for sure. Loves humbuckers too, much more so then any of the other amps (actually the peavey's overdrive channel responds well to humbuckers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members =JL= Posted December 22, 2011 Members Share Posted December 22, 2011 That's interesting. I've always used a mild overdrive pedal to assess amps when buying them, it can really highlight some of their inherent characteristics which you can easily miss when played totally clean.Personally I could cover pretty much everything with the Twin and the Champ. The HRD sounds harsh and crude compared to the others, almost like the difference between miking the centre and the edge of the speaker. I'm assuming your mic technique was constant, and I've had pleasing results with HRDs in the studio myself, is it the stock speaker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hardtdc Posted December 22, 2011 Members Share Posted December 22, 2011 Had some time today to crank up and record 5 of my amps clean channel (where channels were an option) with mostly the same riff/chords. Cranked up the twin pretty loud in an attempt to get some kinda crunch - not much there. Guitar was a stock srv strat neck/mid pickupAnyway, here's the clip:http://soundcloud.com/wagdog-1/allamps0:00 - Twin (project amp, 4x6V6)0:24 - Champ (project amp, 6L6 8" and 10" speaker)0:46 - Peavey Classic Head and 4x10 (stock)1:11 - Hot Rod Deluxe (stock)1:40 - Rivera Clubster 45 (stock)EDIT:Here's the same amps, same order, same guitar (neck pickup only though), but with a seymour duncan twin tube classic overdrive (lead channel) in front of 'em. http://soundcloud.com/wagdog-1/allamps-od-stratThat overdrive definitely brings out the differences in those amps. My ears are ringing from the twin.EDIT AGAIN:Getting kinda carried away here, but, after I did the OD clip above, I did roughly the same take w/a baja tele and the OD. Here is a clip of the same amps, in the same order, but through the magic of reaper, first the strat, then the tele, same amp, same settings:http://soundcloud.com/wagdog-1/allamps-od-strat-tele Alright. I'm listening through my bi-amped monitors so I can get a good comparison. Clean:Edge goes to the HRD. It just sounded fuller and had more range through the tonal spectrum than the others. 1st OD sample:Slight edge goes to the Twin with a close second to the Peavey. The Peavey sounds good though and I do favor the crunch of EL84 tubes. 2nd OD sample:Still the edge goes to the Twin. There is something about that one that just opens up and breathes where the other amps don't. The Peavey still sounded great and the HRD sounded tons better in this sample than the other one.My experience with the HRD is that you can get the OD channel to sound good if you work with it a lot but it's much better just to play with it through the clean channel and overdrive it with a compressor and a dirt or gain pedal instead. Then you can make it sound kick ass like that Twin sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slvrsrpnt Posted December 22, 2011 Members Share Posted December 22, 2011 neato, I liked the way the hot rod sounded best of the bunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted December 22, 2011 Members Share Posted December 22, 2011 1 twin & 4 HRD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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