Members TaZMaNiO Posted June 23, 2005 Members Share Posted June 23, 2005 Agile thread on The Gear Page I already sent em an email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DonP Posted June 23, 2005 Members Share Posted June 23, 2005 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted June 23, 2005 Members Share Posted June 23, 2005 The guy that started that thread is a notorious Agile hater over there. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TaZMaNiO Posted June 23, 2005 Author Members Share Posted June 23, 2005 Originally posted by DonP No. Have you ever played a guitar with SS frets?If not try a Gibson Supreme next-time you get a chance...effortless string bends and the frets last forever!Personally, I'm tired of playing guitars that are in various stages of fret wear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cougar Hunter Posted June 23, 2005 Members Share Posted June 23, 2005 Originally posted by DonP No. You beat me too it.I'd like a nice Charvel model 2,3,4,5,6,375,475, etc. with SS frets, but not an Agile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members batotman Posted June 23, 2005 Members Share Posted June 23, 2005 I want a 3000 model (i guess they could call it 3200) with stainless steel frets, ebondy board, and a cool blue or blue green flametop like the Gibby limited edition standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DonP Posted June 23, 2005 Members Share Posted June 23, 2005 Originally posted by TaZMaNiO Have you ever played a guitar with SS frets?If not try a Gibson Supreme next-time you get a chance...effortless string bends and the frets last forever!Personally, I'm tired of playing guitars that are in various stages of fret wear No, but I wouldn't start with an Agile. I'd start with a Jackson.Or a Charvel.The Gibson Supreme is a very good choice, but I have 3 LP's already. I don't like frets that wear out either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TaZMaNiO Posted June 23, 2005 Author Members Share Posted June 23, 2005 Originally posted by DonP No, but I wouldn't start with an Agile. I'd start with a Jackson.Or a Charvel.The Gibson Supreme is a very good choice, but I have 3 LP's already. I don't like frets that wear out either. Some people like me have "knock-around" guitars, I really don't like taking my LP Supreme to bar gigs...I'd also like to have an LP copy that has SS frets, since it wouldn't be worth refretting it'd be nice if I never had to worry about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted June 23, 2005 Members Share Posted June 23, 2005 Originally posted by TaZMaNiO Some people like me have "knock-around" guitars, I really don't like taking my LP Supreme to bar gigs...I'd also like to have an LP copy that has SS frets, since it wouldn't be worth refretting it'd be nice if I never had to worry about that Excellent point.I don't get why people wouldn't want to see a low cost guitar with high end features. Even if you never buy one, why rain on someone elses parade?The AL-3500 is a pretty serious guitar. Add a S/S fret option and it only makes it more so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JimboJ Posted June 23, 2005 Members Share Posted June 23, 2005 Is there any downside to SS frets? The cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted June 24, 2005 Members Share Posted June 24, 2005 Originally posted by JimboJ Is there any downside to SS frets? The cost? Strings wear out faster but strings are cheaper than a re-fret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JimboJ Posted June 24, 2005 Members Share Posted June 24, 2005 Originally posted by pete n. Strings wear out faster but strings are cheaper than a re-fret. I don't know about that. A refret is what, about $150? A set of strings is like $5. 1 refret = 30 sets of strings.That means if you go through more than 30 sets of strings between refrets, then the refret is cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted June 24, 2005 Members Share Posted June 24, 2005 Originally posted by JimboJ I don't know about that. A refret is what, about $150? A set of strings is like $5. 1 refret = 30 sets of strings.That means if you go through more than 30 sets of strings between refrets, then the refret is cheaper. Yeah, you're right. Maybe I should say less of a pain in the ass than a re-fret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T3 Posted June 24, 2005 Members Share Posted June 24, 2005 Originally posted by JimboJ I don't know about that. A refret is what, about $150? A set of strings is like $5. 1 refret = 30 sets of strings.That means if you go through more than 30 sets of strings between refrets, then the refret is cheaper. only in the same time span...if you go through more than 30 packs of strings more, but also get an extra 6 months playing, then it's still a bonus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OldFenderGuy Posted June 24, 2005 Members Share Posted June 24, 2005 Originally posted by pete n. Strings wear out faster but strings are cheaper than a re-fret. Why do you feel that strings wear out faster?I have a number of guitars with stainless frets, and I've never noticed strings wearing any quicker (although I do change them very frequently).The highly polished stainless frets are smooth as glass for effortless bending, and there can't be that much friction between the strings and frets to cause accelerated wear.Why would there be less friction, causing less string wear, with nickel alloy frets?But then again, I can't remember ever having a string break at a fret, no matter if I am using stainless or nickel alloy fret wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members leftyjay Posted June 24, 2005 Members Share Posted June 24, 2005 i think my strings last just as long as the did before. maybe even more because the frets are so much smoother, it doesnt wear the strings out either. i am a big string bender and have not noticed any accessive wear problems in my strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TaZMaNiO Posted June 24, 2005 Author Members Share Posted June 24, 2005 Originally posted by leftyjay i think my strings last just as long as the did before. maybe even more because the frets are so much smoother, it doesnt wear the strings out either. i am a big string bender and have not noticed any accessive wear problems in my strings. LOL...by the time I wear-out strings on SS frets, they would have been tone-dead on nickel silver just the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ancient Mariner Posted June 24, 2005 Members Share Posted June 24, 2005 I think SS frets would be good because they'd stop your guitar changing in feel. As frets wear the feel and tone of an instrument changes (you may even need to raise the action to compensate). In addition, when you have a refret done it's not unusual for the guitar to change quite significantly in how it plays and sounds. If SS frets prevented that then it can only be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wtfg89 Posted June 24, 2005 Members Share Posted June 24, 2005 no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Country Junkie Posted June 24, 2005 Members Share Posted June 24, 2005 Originally posted by OldFenderGuy Why do you feel that strings wear out faster?I have a number of guitars with stainless frets, and I've never noticed strings wearing any quicker (although I do change them very frequently).The highly polished stainless frets are smooth as glass for effortless bending, and there can't be that much friction between the strings and frets to cause accelerated wear.Why would there be less friction, causing less string wear, with nickel alloy frets?But then again, I can't remember ever having a string break at a fret, no matter if I am using stainless or nickel alloy fret wire. Theres no way my strings are wearing out any faster than with regular frets. In fact, the strings may even sound better longer. The only possible drawback to SS frets IMHO is a slight change in tone. It's not worse or better, just a tiny bit different. And I'm not even sure about that. I have had my Warmoth SRV neck for over 2 years now and the frets look and play like the day I bought it. This neck for many reasons has improved my technique and playing. I know when I tell people that my guitar is a MIM std strat they kind of look at me funny and in disbelief. I'll never buy regular frets again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TaZMaNiO Posted August 10, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 BTTT for the boyz at Rondo on ol' Rt. 22! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jimi Ray Halen Posted August 10, 2005 Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 Originally posted by JimboJ I don't know about that. A refret is what, about $150? A set of strings is like $5. 1 refret = 30 sets of strings.That means if you go through more than 30 sets of strings between refrets, then the refret is cheaper. But that's like comparing clipping your toenails to having major surgery. And you're going to have to replace the strings anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TaZMaNiO Posted August 10, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 Originally posted by Jimi Ray Halen But that's like comparing clipping your toenails to having major surgery. And you're going to have to replace the strings anyway. ***BINGO***Give that man a cigar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jimi Ray Halen Posted August 10, 2005 Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 Originally posted by TaZMaNiO ***BINGO***Give that man a cigar! Cuban, please.A friend of mine had his old LP refretted and it cost closer to $300 than $150.Plus he worried about it the entire time it was gone. He got it back and the guy did a good job but it was a traumatic experience for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members batotman Posted August 10, 2005 Members Share Posted August 10, 2005 A 3000 with stainless steel frets in Gibby peacock green with no pickguard and a chambered body (NOT SEMIHOLLOW!!!) allowing weights of 8-9lbs.....i'd buy it in a second! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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