Members EJ_Boy Posted November 16, 2012 Members Share Posted November 16, 2012 For example, my 92 MIM strat has a silver "fender" logo on the headstock. I saw a 95 MIM strat which had a black "fender" logo. I think the bridges are a little different between these two guitars as well. Why the subtle changes? Management / branding corporate bs? Main reason I'm asking is bc I want to learn to spot a fake. Is it normal to have these little changes year after year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bubkus_jones Posted November 16, 2012 Members Share Posted November 16, 2012 Yes it is normal. Slight design changes could come from attempts to improve manufacturing efficiency while keeping the quality level high, or just to continually offer something different (even if just minor) to try to get people who already have a Strat to buy another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dmc69 Posted November 16, 2012 Members Share Posted November 16, 2012 Different series have different style logos and/or as times progress, Fender just chooses to change the style. I don't understand the part about mgmt/branding corporate BS, as companies tend to update their logo(s) over time. If you want to spot a fake with regards to logos (MIM, I presume, since it's what you're comparing), then for starters, take a look at the 2 different MIM standard logos. It used to be silver with a black outline and a serial on the front of the headstock up until and including 2009 I believe, but now it's black with a gold outline and serial on the back (2010 and beyond). All completely black logos denote a Fender Squier Series guitar, and the serial numbers will point to the mid 90's. There should be a small decal on the ball of the headstock that says "Squier Series"; it was sanded off if it's not there. The other logo you should familiarize yourself with is the "spaghetti" logo, which is usually used for anything else that's not Standard Series (eg. Deluxe, Classic, Blacktop, Factory Special Run, etc...). Finally, there's the 70's style logo for MIM Classic 70's guitars. Is it normal for them to change it year after year? In my opinion, no, if you're asking within a series. They hardly change. The standard series took nearly 2 decades to change logo styles. But like I said, there are different series with different logos. Just do yourself some research, and you should be able to spot a fake fairly easily. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I've gathered after owning a bunch and researching these guitars. edit: i'm talking only about logos. Subtle changes in hardware and stuff is continually happening, and to answer the OP's question from a hardware point of view, then yes, it's normal for changes from each model year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PrawnHeed Posted November 16, 2012 Members Share Posted November 16, 2012 They make them more "vintage correct" every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members harold heckuba Posted November 16, 2012 Members Share Posted November 16, 2012 I think the black logo'd one you speak of was a cheaper series called the Traditional series, and it had cheaper hardware. It was about $30 less than a Standard. My favorite local shop used to push them hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jpnyc Posted November 16, 2012 Members Share Posted November 16, 2012 Styles change over time. Sometimes the changes are huge, like big headstocks or the weird hair-metal strats of the late 1980s. Other times it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Will Chen Posted November 16, 2012 Members Share Posted November 16, 2012 Also, you'd be surprised at how seemingly little changes can save a company a ton of money. For instance, say the silver ink results in an increased cost per instrument of .10 versus a black and gold design. Multiple that by the number of guitars manufactured over a 5 year period. I think the same regarding thin skin finishes. They may indeed sound better, but from a cost perspective less spray per guitar multiplied by the number of guitars manufactured over a 5 eyar period equals substantial savings. that saving goes up even more if they figured out a new chemical compound or production method requiring less labor for final finishing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Doctor Morbius Posted November 16, 2012 Members Share Posted November 16, 2012 Originally Posted by PrawnHeed They make them more "vintage correct" every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Tele Posted November 16, 2012 Members Share Posted November 16, 2012 they are always fartin' around with specs. The pickups for example flip flop wind direction every few years, and some pickups are RWRP, some arent depending on the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted November 17, 2012 Members Share Posted November 17, 2012 Many models of MIM strats. Differing nut widths, string spacing, neck shapes, routs, wood types, fret board radius. string trees. tuners, pickups, you name it. Saying MIM strats means little unless you say the model and year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EJ_Boy Posted November 19, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 19, 2012 Originally Posted by DaleH Many models of MIM strats. Differing nut widths, string spacing, neck shapes, routs, wood types, fret board radius. string trees. tuners, pickups, you name it.Saying MIM strats means little unless you say the model and year. I'm not a fan of wide necks , although I assume tone takes a bit of a hit on the smaller necks. What years did Fender use smaller necks on MIM and MIA's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members omni Posted November 19, 2012 Members Share Posted November 19, 2012 Body size has also changed slightly over the years. The 50's and 60's had slightly smaller bodys. I mean unnoticeable till you measure them. They made em bigger for some reason. Then they made em smaller again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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