Members GuitarLord Posted June 3, 2011 Members Share Posted June 3, 2011 Ok, so this guy is singing very close to what I'm aiming for so can someone tell me few words about his technique... Main question - if you listen to this song, can you find out where is his placement, does he sings into soft palate (which I think he does), or what? I can hear a lot of distortion in his voice, but it seams pretty easy for him to sing like that so he must be singing it from the diaphragm into the upper part of his voice (soft palate)... or I'm totally wrong Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rodclement Posted June 3, 2011 Members Share Posted June 3, 2011 I have no idea what you call distortion? Is it the raspiness in the voice? The guy has good tone but looses pitch often, strugles with many points in the song, and has very poor stage delivery, if you are aiming for this I would stop taking lessons ASAP and make sure you join a band that plays loud where you can't hear yourself sing! I would hate to be this guys throat the day after this gig... Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators davie Posted June 4, 2011 Moderators Share Posted June 4, 2011 It sounds like he's singing too much from the throat. It seems like he's straining to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 100jamesX Posted June 4, 2011 Members Share Posted June 4, 2011 I agree with davie.. He Sounds good off and on.. because of straining Current Problem im Having Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bajazz Posted June 4, 2011 Members Share Posted June 4, 2011 I have no idea what you call distortion? Is it the raspiness in the voice? The guy has good tone but looses pitch often, strugles with many points in the song, and has very poor stage delivery, if you are aiming for this I would stop taking lessons ASAP and make sure you join a band that plays loud where you can't hear yourself sing! I would hate to be this guys throat the day after this gig...The distortion sound natural to me. It can be done in the throat, but it sounds as this guy places it forward in the correct way. I can't see the poor delivery, IMO he does what's called for in a ballad, and he also sings with good dynamics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rodclement Posted June 4, 2011 Members Share Posted June 4, 2011 The distortion sound natural to me. It can be done in the throat, but it sounds as this guy places it forward in the correct way. I can't see the poor delivery, IMO he does what's called for in a ballad, and he also sings with good dynamics. Really!!! I guess we both have diferent expectations of a singer! He sounds straining and looks totaly unconfortable around the stage...stand....sit...stand...move hands...sit... Please don't call raspiness distortion! There is no distortion in his voice unless you call when he sings out of key distortion! There are proper techniques to deliver raspiness and he is not employing it at all, look at his face and the strain in his neck! In any case, we will have to agree to disagree here. Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Masklin Posted June 4, 2011 Members Share Posted June 4, 2011 He's nasal here and there, y'all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urca Posted June 7, 2011 Members Share Posted June 7, 2011 schnerp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bajazz Posted June 7, 2011 Members Share Posted June 7, 2011 Please don't call raspiness distortion! There is no distortion in his voice unless you call when he sings out of key distortion! There are proper techniques to deliver raspiness and he is not employing it at all, look at his face and the strain in his neck!raspiness is when you have the rasp all the time caused by the condition of your cords. This guy alter from clean to distortion. I don't see much strain in his neck, but I see he use facial expressions. This is normal when you sing with emotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members P. Wallace Posted June 7, 2011 Members Share Posted June 7, 2011 Complete Vocal Institute uses distortion as a term to discribe a vocal effect. CVI is a credible vocal program that's been around for a long time. Check it out. http://www.completevocalinstitute.com/ My bad, I guess they call it overdrive and not distortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bajazz Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 Yup, your right! My vocal teacher is actually trained in this method (complete vocal technique) and she refers to overdrive as a how the sound resonate from the cords, and not the the overdrive effect that is typically used by a guitar player. Look at it as the hot tone from the bridge humbucker of a Les Paul as opposed to the clean tone from the mid pickup on a strat. Compare a quiet shy person speaking softly vs a loud italian with a clear loud voice. Rasp is normally referred to when it's a permenent vocal condition. Normally it is cased by nodules causing the cords to not vibrate evenly their whole length, thus adding a more or less whispery, hissing sound to their voice. The CVT method uses the terms neutral, curbing, overdrive and belting as the 4 main vocal functions. In addition there are effcts on top of this as growl, twang, air and DISTORTION. Distortion is used as a effect to simulate rasp or hoarseiness and done correct by altering the back of your thoungue. This causes the distortion to be a seperate effect added to the sound that is produced healty and clean in your vocal cords and therefore not harmful. On a few notes he tends to sing from lower towards, but not IN the throat, but on the more powerful ones he places them forward. About straining, I would say he strain just about the correct amount for this kind of emotianal song More, and it would be too much and less it would be apathic and gutless. It would be boring showing full control with no face movement, Stage performance is just like acting in the theatre: You need to draw the story with BIG LETTERS. Music is mostly visual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rodclement Posted June 8, 2011 Members Share Posted June 8, 2011 I get it, you guys think he is great and want to emulate him...more power to you! Like I said, let's just disagree on this one. Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members staticsound Posted June 9, 2011 Members Share Posted June 9, 2011 Who is this guy?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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