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    I've been practising with this ten second clip stuff for years, and what I am finding is that the softer, nuanced singing is easily the most difficult.

    Getting some of them to sound the way I want is more of a challenge. One of my old favourites is now getting there. The problem I found was in trying to match the dynamic, while keeping the laid back, gentle mood of reminiscence. No belting in this song! With belting you just let it go, you don't have to strike a balance, as you sometimes do with more nuanced technique.

    https://soundcloud.com/kickingtone/sos059frp

    The basic advice I was getting was essentially to rockify my voice. But that ain't me, ain't my voice type, and it ain't gonna happen. Anyway, it is now more or less how I want it to sound.

    ALERT! THERE WILL BE TROLLS ON THIS THREAD. IGNORE THEM AND STAY POSITIVE.

  • #2
    Originally posted by kickingtone View Post
    ALERT! THERE WILL BE TROLLS ON THIS THREAD. IGNORE THEM AND STAY POSITIVE.
    Trolls = People with opinions different to the OP

    Stay Positive = Copy & paste post onto multiple forums and hope someone replies

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    • #3
      ow for goodness rudy sake as saw as I seen the title "singing softly" who on rudy earth could it be.....dur-dur-derder the great SLM who is once again fooling him self. Hum lets now before I bother reading any of this thread. Dose the thread title singing softly/ quietly so not to disturb the neighbors (I mean fool your self rekindle any memories SLM). Well bedroom singers to bedroom scrooners, hay you know what next eh, mimicking the words.

      Hay CD did you know our friend SLM km1, is a big star over on the homerecording forum, infact he is the best singer they have (no sereusly) and he has even bosted about singing bohemian rhapsody! looking forward to hearing that one SLM

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      • #4
        Originally posted by New2 View Post
        Hay CD did you know our friend SLM km1, is a big star over on the homerecording forum, infact he is the best singer they have (no sereusly) and he has even bosted about singing bohemian rhapsody! looking forward to hearing that one SLM
        No I didn't know , I don't really read the homerecording forum very often. Bohemian Rhapsody huh ? I'd like to hear him condense that into a 10 second clip

        To be fair this new one is 30 seconds long...and t's actually the best one so far that I can recall.

        I think he has it wrong in his mind though....this isn't singing softly ....it's just normal singing and whatever he was doing before was too pushed / forced / squeezed. I think it suits his voice..much more than some of the other ones which are awful ( e.i Rio )

        For once he sounds like he's singing the words with some meaning as well as being on pitch, probably because he's not all tense and constricted..it just comes out normal. Similar to how your SLM song just sounded more 'normal' when you were goofing around..and when you 'try' too much it isn't as good. There's probably a lesson in all this somewhere.

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        • #5
          CD
          I have Just read the thread properly now and listened to his clip and you are right he is not singing softly so as not to disturbed the neighbours but more in the mode of the original song. But bearing this in mind once again he has demonstrated that he dose not know what he is talking about (as he relies on smipits of information from all different sources which 9 times out of 10 are incorrect (youtube vocal coaches claiming to be teachers that have had no formal training them selfs rekindle any memories). As he has been adviced time and time again to take lessons from reputable teachers and yet he says it is not necessary. But ironicly enough on the home recording forum he says that lessons are vary very important, I mean WTF is this all about (this is the forum full of drop out loosers who are not prepeared to put an oz of effort into anything except to criticism ridicule condom and destroyer the hard work of others!).

          If SLM could make his position clear hear and state whether or not
          1. I know you are right and I am happy plodding along fooling myself or
          2. Your are all wrong and lessons suck for the following reasons

          But instead he passes no comment only to say that anyone who disagrees with him is a troll, wel this is bigotry and ignorance my friend
          Last edited by New2; 08-07-2018, 07:07 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by New2 View Post
            CD
            he is not singing softly so as not to disturbed the neighbours but more in the mode of the original song.
            Exactly ..his mind says softly...actually comes out as normal...in lesser skilled singers what we think and what comes out are often not the same thing...this is why it's so hard to learn


            Originally posted by New2 View Post
            once again he has demonstrated that he dose not know what he is talking about (as he relies on smipits of information from all different sources which 9 times out of 10 are incorrect (youtube vocal coaches claiming to be teachers that have had no formal training them selfs rekindle any memories).
            I don't think it's necessarily that 9 out of 10 of the snippets are wrong..there are some good resources out there but if they are taken out of context they can lead you down the garden path. Look it this way....

            'Natural' singers were able somehow to teach themselves just by listening and copying either singers around them ( i.e.family, school, church, choir, radio etc )...probably at a young age

            'Non Singers' were not able to do that for whatever reason...so why would copying these techniques on Youtube as an adult be any more successful?

            But you are right about SLM's attitude...self righteous and sanctimonious ( probably deeply religous )

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            • #7
              Originally posted by CosmicDolphin View Post
              'Natural' singers were able somehow to teach themselves just by listening and copying either singers around them ( i.e.family, school, church, choir, radio etc )...probably at a young age

              'Non Singers' were not able to do that for whatever reason...so why would copying these techniques on Youtube as an adult be any more successful?
              I am just not convinced or have any faith in the term natural singer it is just to broad of a term the has no logical or scientific backing. I mean just about every one can sing happy birthday with our lessons so we all have the ability to sing right, and learn that song coz when we where born we never heared nevermind had the ability to sing happy birthday

              Lets use you friend as an example hearhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQXgO6jFo5g&feature=youtu.be
              You said before that he dose not belive in lessons so if what you are saying is true then he is a natural singer that could with out instruction
              Well watching his video IMHO he is a good singer but not a GREAT singer, he sings easy-fair songs in a soft voice, apart from that last song the price I pay. and when he got to the last note which is the big note, something like G3 or something, he completly skips it because he can not sing it well like there was a lack of power in his voice. But if he trained he would build the mussels up to have a great powerfull voice

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              • #8
                Originally posted by CosmicDolphin View Post
                But you are right about SLM's attitude...self righteous and sanctimonious ( probably deeply religous )
                HAR HAR HAR HAR I can just see him now, leaving his beedroom studio on a sunday morning as he hurtels/ leads him self up and down the garden path practacing singing church hims before he goes to church. You never know he might even have time to chace him self round the apple tree

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