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  • #61
    Originally posted by powbob01 View Post

    They knew he was the ideal convenient idiot that would allow them to push their most unpopular plans through. He’s just a tool.
    Maynard James Keenan is not amused.

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    Originally Posted by RobRoy: I believe that the only way Obama will remain in power is if he suspends elections. And at that point he is no longer president. He is dictator. But I don't believe he will even survive that long. It could be suicide, impeachment by BOTH parties, you name it.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by nedezero1 View Post

      I'm referring to Trump. What money laundering charges have been levied against Trump?
      How convenient that a bank known for money laundering prevented the very investigations that would answer your questions.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Tom Hicks View Post

        In a curious coincidence the Trump Taj Mahal casino may have laundered money for Russian organized crime.


        The violations date back to a time when the Taj Mahal was the preferred gambling spot for Russian mobsters living in Brooklyn, according to federal investigators who tracked organized crime in New York City. They also occurred at a time when the Taj Mahal casino was short on cash and on the verge of bankruptcy.

        https://www-m.cnn.com/2017/05/22/pol...kduckgo.com%2F
        It always seemed quite fitting to me that trumps biggest casino was named after an outwardly beautiful crypt.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by arcadesonfire View Post

          OK. I thought that by "FinCEN logging," you meant the report had already been logged with government.

          Does the scenario you describe above apply to Deutsche Bank executives preventing a report by its anti-money laundering specialists to our government? Is it common for bank executives to conduct a final review?

          Or are the executives more specialized and informed than the specialists hired for this role?
          Let's back up...

          First off, you're digesting the story as gospel and 100% accurate. As we've seem time and again, what's initially reported usually doesn't end up being what's really happening or what's happened. I can cite a pretty long list of MSM inaccuracies and flat-out falsehoods.

          Second, I'm suspicious of the report's account that it was "executives" as it has conveyed to the public.

          In my bank, we have an EVP that runs the enterprise risk dept., and is over-all responsible for the reporting in that department.

          I could easily see how a biased reporter would feel honest if they said "executives" overruled the analysts looking at the transactions.

          What that really means to me is the system kicked out transactions for review, and the department policy/procedures (singed by the executive), gave guidance on which transactions to exclude or consider false-positives.

          Or there could've been a nefarious plot to cover money laundering by Trump by the very top of the bank's leadership (and the Russians).

          I'll go with my version since my versions seems to be panning out to be more accurate than other's these days.




          Last edited by nedezero1; 05-21-2019, 01:50 PM.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by nedezero1 View Post

            Let's back up...

            First off, you're digesting the story as gospel and 100% accurate. As we've seem time and again, what's initially reported usually doesn't end up being what's really happening or what's happened. I can cite a pretty long list of MSM inaccuracies and flat-out falsehoods.

            Second, I'm suspicious of the report's account that it was "executives" as it has conveyed to the public.

            In my bank, we have an EVP that runs the enterprise risk dept., and is over-all responsible for the reporting in that department.

            I could easily see how a biased reporter would feel honest if they said "executives" overruled the analysts looking at the transactions.

            What that really means to me is the system kicked out transactions for review, and the department policy/procedures (singed by the executive), gave guidance on which transactions to exclude or consider false-positives.

            Or there could've been a nefarious plot to cover money laundering by Trump by the very top of the bank's leadership (and the Russians).

            I'll go with my version since my versions seems to be panning out to be more accurate than other's these days.



            I'll bet the facts don't support your "version" (and so far they don't). Let's see what rocks get turned over.

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            Originally Posted by RobRoy: I believe that the only way Obama will remain in power is if he suspends elections. And at that point he is no longer president. He is dictator. But I don't believe he will even survive that long. It could be suicide, impeachment by BOTH parties, you name it.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Zipperhead View Post

              I'll bet the facts don't support your "version" (and so far they don't). Let's see what rocks get turned over.

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              I haven't seen any "facts" yet...have you?

              I mean other than the fact the media doesn't have a very good track record reporting accurately re Trump.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by nedezero1 View Post

                Let's back up...

                First off, you're digesting the story as gospel and 100% accurate. As we've seem time and again, what's initially reported usually doesn't end up being what's really happening or what's happened. I can cite a pretty long list of MSM inaccuracies and flat-out falsehoods.

                Second, I'm suspicious of the report's account that it was "executives" as it has conveyed to the public.

                In my bank, we have an EVP that runs the enterprise risk dept., and is over-all responsible for the reporting in that department.

                I could easily see how a biased reporter would feel honest if they said "executives" overruled the analysts looking at the transactions.

                What that really means to me is the system kicked out transactions for review, and the department policy/procedures (singed by the executive), gave guidance on which transactions to exclude or consider false-positives.

                Or there could've been a nefarious plot to cover money laundering by Trump by the very top of the bank's leadership (and the Russians).

                I'll go with my version since my versions seems to be panning out to be more accurate than other's these days.



                Ah, in that case, you coulda just said "fake news" from the start. It'll be like all those times when MSM reported meetings between Trump campaign officials and Russians, or reported that Trump had a potential real estate deal going in Moscow during the election, or the time MSM reported that Trump was trying to impede Mueller--all things that Mueller roundly rejected as "fake news" in his team's report. [/sarcasm]

                The real question is: Why do you always spell "impeach" with an n?? Is the n for nede?
                For those who prefer to listen rather than read and who ask these questions: What underlying crimes were being investigated when Trump obstructed justice? Why wasn't he indicted? Why did Mueller discuss indicting a sitting president in Volume II but not Volume I?
                https://www.audible.com/pd/The-Muell...ook/B07PXN468K


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                • #68
                  Originally posted by nedezero1 View Post

                  I haven't seen any "facts" yet...have you?

                  I mean other than the fact the media doesn't have a very good track record reporting accurately re Trump.
                  Link me up to the factual track record of media's inaccurate reporting on Trump please.

                  unless of course this is just an unsupported opinion...
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Tom Hicks View Post

                    Link me up to the factual track record of media's inaccurate reporting on Trump please.

                    unless of course this is just an unsupported opinion...
                    I’d like to see that record too.

                    Curiously, after years of denying events that ended up in the Mueller report, Trump himself recently said the Mueller report is “the Bible.”
                    For those who prefer to listen rather than read and who ask these questions: What underlying crimes were being investigated when Trump obstructed justice? Why wasn't he indicted? Why did Mueller discuss indicting a sitting president in Volume II but not Volume I?
                    https://www.audible.com/pd/The-Muell...ook/B07PXN468K


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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by arcadesonfire View Post

                      I’d like to see that record too.

                      Curiously, after years of denying events that ended up in the Mueller report, Trump himself recently said the Mueller report is “the Bible.”
                      I don't expect any two things that Donald says to agree with each other. He's a transactional guy. And he likes to speak off-the-cuff.

                      that his inconsistencies and lying don't seem to bother his supporters is a big old clue about the transactional nature of their own support for him.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Tom Hicks View Post

                        Link me up to the factual track record of media's inaccurate reporting on Trump please.

                        unless of course this is just an unsupported opinion...
                        Here's a list of at least 75 times the media got it wrong re Trump.

                        https://sharylattkisson.com/2019/01/...finitive-list/

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by arcadesonfire View Post

                          I’d like to see that record too.

                          Curiously, after years of denying events that ended up in the Mueller report, Trump himself recently said the Mueller report is “the Bible.”
                          Ask and ye shall receive...

                          https://sharylattkisson.com/2019/01/...finitive-list/

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by nedezero1 View Post
                            Are you now back to saying that Trump campaign officials didn't have contact with any senior Russian intelligence officials? Does Sergei Kislyak not count as an intelligence official?

                            And you've chosen a brilliant source who would certainly never misunderstand anything or mince words. /sarcasm

                            https://thehill.com/opinion/healthca...link-to-autism
                            Still writing about this in 2019.

                            More important: Why do you spell impeach with an n??
                            For those who prefer to listen rather than read and who ask these questions: What underlying crimes were being investigated when Trump obstructed justice? Why wasn't he indicted? Why did Mueller discuss indicting a sitting president in Volume II but not Volume I?
                            https://www.audible.com/pd/The-Muell...ook/B07PXN468K


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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by nedezero1 View Post

                              Here's a list of at least 75 times the media got it wrong re Trump.

                              https://sharylattkisson.com/2019/01/...finitive-list/
                              How does that compare to the number of time's the media got it right re Trump?

                              that will give us a more balanced look how many times they got it right versus how many times they got it wrong.

                              and then we'll be in position to reach an overall conclusion.

                              do you understand why it's important for us to know how many times the media got it right versus how many times they got it wrong?

                              so what's the supporting evidence for your overall conclusion?
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Hoot Owl View Post
                                This is what we've speculated about. Now we have a red flag. Where will this lead? Too early to tell, but sure as hell, this is going to be analyzed now, even though Deutsche employees tried to avoid it. Trump, of course, says it's phony.
                                https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/19/busin...ner/index.html
                                Deutsche Bank's anti-money laundering specialists once recommended that transactions involving entities controlled by President Donald Trump and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, be reported to a US agency that investigates financial crimes...


                                Did anyone else see 60 Minutes last night? One of the segments was on Russians laundering rubles through a bank (in Estonia?), many BILLIONS of them, changing them into dollars. Bank officers were covering it up, as part of the crime. One whistle blower was all it took for this to come to light. The link is not yet up (I think it takes a week or two for 60 Minutes to put them up).

                                Could be that there's a whole lot of money laundering going on, more than anyone realizes, by people that would surprise us.
                                Just a heads up. This will be in the news. This could be why Trump is so reactionary to financial inquiry. Then again, it could be one of several reasons.
                                PrimaDonald's money trail will prove Criminal Conspiracy with a hostile nation ( Russia ) and that he is Putin's asset in the White House.
                                Trump, his Family , Devon Nunes and many in his Administration will go to Prison.
                                His defiance against Constitutional Rule of Law is going to lead to many Governmental Reforms, including the end of the Electoral College, which is as useless as ruptured appendix.
                                The Trump debacle, will force America into a more Democratic Nation that serves the People not Corporations or the filthy few Elite.
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