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  • #61
    Maybe he lost interest...

    'This is serious': Jared Kushner reportedly tried to set up a secret Trump-Russia back channel

    Bryan Logan and Natasha Bertrand
    May 26, 2017, 7:53 PM Jared Kushner Getty Images Jared Kushner, President Donald Trump's son-in-law and top White House adviser, was willing to go extraordinary lengths to establish a secret line of communication between the Trump administration and Russian government officials, The Washington Post reportedon Friday.

    During the presidential transition period leading up to Trump's inauguration, Kushner held a series of meetings with the Russian ambassador to the US, Sergey Kislyak, and the head of a Moscow bank that was under US sanctions.

    In talks with Kislyak in December, Kushner floated the possibility of setting up a secure line of communication between the Trump transition team and Russia — and having those talks take place in Russian diplomatic facilities in the US, essentially concealing their interactions from US government scrutiny, The Post wrote, citing US intelligence officials briefed on the matter.

    Kislyak reportedly passed along that request to Moscow. The Post's Ellen Nakashima, Adam Entous, and Greg Miller reported that the Russian ambassador was "taken aback" by Kushner's request, because it posed significant risks for both the Trump team and the Kremlin.

    Kushner, who did not disclose the meeting on his security clearance form, is now a subject in the FBI's investigation of Russia's election interference, and whether the Trump campaign colluded with Moscow to undermine Hillary Clinton.


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    • #62
      Originally posted by Tom Hicks View Post

      The country name Iran derives from the old cultural word Aryan. But to avoid the misperception of meaning due to the cultural appropriation by the Germans it's probably best to think of them culturally and ethnically as Persians instead of arabs.
      Mostly because they are Persians. They are not Arabs. They speak Farsi as opposed to Arabic because they are Persian. Not Arabs.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by powbob01 View Post

        Mostly because they are Persians. They are not Arabs. They speak Farsi as opposed to Arabic because they are Persian. Not Arabs.
        Yup.

        and yet some folks over here in our neck of the woods like to paint with a pretty broad brush about everybody in the Middle East who isn't Jewish.

        another thing they are not is a third-world S-hole nation lacking a modern military.

        Bolton's mustache seems eager to ramp up the tension much in a similar manner as he did back in the run-up to the Iraq War.

        but I'm not seeing an appetite for that from the American people.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by Easy Listener View Post

          It may come across as bigotry, but it is not. bigotry

          noun
          big·​ot·​ry | \ ˈbi-gə-trē \
          plural bigotries Definition of bigotry

          1: obstinate or intolerant devotion to one's own opinions and prejudices : the state of mind of a bigot

          My error was in my wording. I said "in the Muslim neck of the woods". I was trying to be cute. I should have simply said, more accurately, "areas dominated by Islam". My beef isn't with Muslims. It is with Islam. And they are not the same thing. In fact, as far as I'm concerned, those that are most victimized by Islam are called Muslims. I see Islam as many see Nazism, Communism or Fascism. Except those that are strong devotees to the tenets of Islam are more dangerous than the other three. By applying a religious element to their radical perspectives, they create a lot of very dangerous and suicidal "human bombs."

          It is a dangerous and evil belief system.

          i.e. I can't replace "muslim" with "jewish" or "christian" because there is not equivalence. I could replace it with "nazi" or MS13, though.
          I'm NOT going to argue with you over semantics - your post was HIGHLY prejudiced against an entire group of people (who you specifically called "Muslims" and not "[radical] Islamists" or "followers of Wahhabism" or anything else that denotes only a radical fringe) based solely on their religious beliefs.

          You know who else did that? The Nazis did.

          I'm not going to even bother to go into all of the contributions (as if I could even begin to name them all) made by Muslims over the years that have benefitted humanity, contributed greatly to the sciences and society in general, as I feel they'd only fall on deaf ears anyway... but they're real, and the world would be far worse off without the contributions of many Muslims throughout history - not all of them are terrorists.

          The next time I see you post something like that on HC, I won't even bother with a warning - I'm going straight to a temp ban. You've already been warned.
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          • #65
            Did anybody hear about the poll on Arabic numerals being taught in American schools?

            https://www.wmcactionnews5.com/2019/...ricans-say-no/


            Bless their hearts...



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            • #66
              Originally posted by Tom Hicks View Post
              Did anybody hear about the poll on Arabic numerals being taught in American schools?

              https://www.wmcactionnews5.com/2019/...ricans-say-no/


              Bless their hearts...


              72% of Republicans said "no".

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              • #67
                Originally posted by guido61 View Post

                72% of Republicans said "no".
                If I told you once, I told you LXXII times, no Arabic numerals allowed!
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                • #68
                  Maybe we can rename them Freedom Numerals.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe View Post

                    I'm NOT going to argue with you over semantics - your post was HIGHLY prejudiced against an entire group of people (who you specifically called "Muslims" and not "[radical] Islamists" or "followers of Wahhabism" or anything else that denotes only a radical fringe) based solely on their religious beliefs.

                    You know who else did that? The Nazis did.

                    I'm not going to even bother to go into all of the contributions (as if I could even begin to name them all) made by Muslims over the years that have benefitted humanity, contributed greatly to the sciences and society in general, as I feel they'd only fall on deaf ears anyway... but they're real, and the world would be far worse off without the contributions of many Muslims throughout history - not all of them are terrorists.

                    The next time I see you post something like that on HC, I won't even bother with a warning - I'm going straight to a temp ban. You've already been warned.
                    I stand by every word of it except one: I should have said the area was dominated by islam instead of being a "muslim" neck of the woods, to zero in on what I was getting at. But then, I've already explained that. Islam is pure evil. Those that understand its roots and history understand this. And yes. I'm willing to "die on this hill". It is one of the most critical issues in the world today, if not THE most critical issue.

                    I will shout from the rooftops, if necessary, that the emperor has no clothes!


                    EVERYTHING I type (i.e. not a link or video) is only my opinion. In a sane world, that should not have to be said. But then, we are not living in a sane world, are we?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Easy Listener View Post
                      Islam is pure evil. [/INDENT]


                      Opinions vary.

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                      Originally Posted by RobRoy: I believe that the only way Obama will remain in power is if he suspends elections. And at that point he is no longer president. He is dictator. But I don't believe he will even survive that long. It could be suicide, impeachment by BOTH parties, you name it.

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                      • #71
                        "Die on this hill"
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Zipperhead View Post

                          Opinions vary.

                          Zip
                          That's for sure. But once one educates themself on the history of this political system called Islam, their opinion tends to match the facts, assuming they are a reasonable person.

                          http://www.sullivan-county.com/id6/defendus.htm

                          https://ctc.usma.edu/understanding-h...ages-of-jihad/

                          https://www.amazon.com/Slavery-Terro.../dp/0958454981

                          I could go on and on...

                          At the end of the day, condemning Islam is similar to condemning Nazism, Communism and Socialism, but Islam is the worst of the bunch because it includes religious zealotry.
                          EVERYTHING I type (i.e. not a link or video) is only my opinion. In a sane world, that should not have to be said. But then, we are not living in a sane world, are we?

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by flemtone View Post
                            "Die on this hill"
                            From here: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoo...erence_i_keep/

                            It's derived from classical military conflict, in which holding the high ground conveyed a strong advantage.

                            Thus, if one army was in place on a hill, it was very very tough for the other army to get them off of it, and many attackers would die. So the attacking commander needed to be very careful deciding which hills were worth taking, and the attacking troops were wary about being ordered to take hills.

                            The modern slang is implying the question "Is this argument/policy fight worth sacrificing everything for?"
                            EVERYTHING I type (i.e. not a link or video) is only my opinion. In a sane world, that should not have to be said. But then, we are not living in a sane world, are we?

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                            • #74
                              Saying you think Islam is bad is different than saying you think all Muslims are bad. I hope the difference and distinction are not lost on you...
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Easy Listener View Post

                                I stand by every word of it except one: I should have said the area was dominated by islam instead of being a "muslim" neck of the woods, to zero in on what I was getting at. But then, I've already explained that. Islam is pure evil. Those that understand its roots and history understand this. And yes. I'm willing to "die on this hill". It is one of the most critical issues in the world today, if not THE most critical issue.

                                I will shout from the rooftops, if necessary, that the emperor has no clothes!

                                Protip: When the Moderator tells you to knock it off, it would behoove you to do so. Take it as you will.

                                Oh, and I fully understand the 'die on this hill' reference. I thought it was a silly drama-filled response, much like those 'When I have a bad day, people die' dramatoids, but thank you for posting the Reddit explanation.
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