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    IMO that was probably the sanest I've ever seen that man. He had some help no doubt. Compare "BUILD THE WALL" to the specifics he laid out.

    He is still way off on Wall = 50% decrease on incoming drugs - most come through checkpoints. Oh and opioid crisis costs 850 BILLION a year. WTF?


    I hope Dems see this as a fig leaf of sorts and set up talks.

    Edit: 750B total (not per year) is good data cumulative I think, and what he said after watching again.
    Last edited by Into Nation; 01-19-2019, 05:21 PM.
    http://www.harmonycentral.com/t5/Electric-Guitars/I-smeared-bacon-fat-on-my-strat-now-it-stinks/td-p/16697195

  • #2
    Didn't get a chance to see it yet but from what you're saying doesn't sound like a major announcement...
    "Plunk your Magic Twanger, Froggy". Andy Devine

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    • #3
      Originally posted by EdBega View Post
      Didn't get a chance to see it yet but from what you're saying doesn't sound like a major announcement...
      It was yuuge... He actually said that we don't need a wall from sea to shining sea (I'm paraphrasing but its close). He is finally getting it.
      http://www.harmonycentral.com/t5/Electric-Guitars/I-smeared-bacon-fat-on-my-strat-now-it-stinks/td-p/16697195

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Into Nation View Post

        It was yuuge... He actually said that we don't need a wall from sea to shining sea (I'm paraphrasing but its close). He is finally getting it.
        Making immigrants ******** again.
        Last edited by Phil O'Keefe; 01-19-2019, 05:38 PM. Reason: Edited by Phil to remove racial slur.
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        • Phil O'Keefe
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          Please don't use racial slurs on HC.

      • #5
        FWIW, look at this recent breach.

        https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...er/2613961002/

        Those walls are in high traffic areas, and need to be reinforced somehow. Look at how easy it was to dig under.

        So yea, build the wall better there. Concrete pouring below, or maybe movement detection above. Just do it smart!
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        • #6
          Originally posted by Into Nation View Post
          IMO that was probably the sanest I've ever seen that man. He had some help no doubt. Compare "BUILD THE WALL" to the specifics he laid out.

          He is still way off on Wall = 50% decrease on incoming drugs - most come through checkpoints. Oh and opioid crisis costs 850 BILLION a year. WTF?


          I hope Dems see this as a fig leaf of sorts and set up talks.
          They won`t. Guaranteed.

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          • #7
            All reasonable and spoken like a true leader...


            "Plunk your Magic Twanger, Froggy". Andy Devine

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            • EdBega
              EdBega commented
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              Skip ahead about 4 minutes...
              Last edited by EdBega; 01-19-2019, 05:13 PM.

          • #8
            [QUOTE=EdBega;n32454696]All reasonable and spoken like a true leader...


            It`s more than reasonable. A greater percentage of the budget probably goes for toilet paper and pens. This is purely political since the people against it now voted for it before. It looks like it`s backfiring.
            https://www.mediaite.com/trump/shock...wall-shutdown/ That`s an NPR/PBS poll. Not surprising to me at all.

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            • #9
              Dems offering nothing apparently. They are

              https://www.npr.org/2019/01/19/68687..._campaign=news

              Oh, and **** Ann Coulter.
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              • EdBega
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                He's better off without her appearance-wise..

            • #10
              Originally posted by Into Nation View Post
              Dems offering nothing apparently. They are

              https://www.npr.org/2019/01/19/68687..._campaign=news

              Oh, and **** Ann Coulter.
              The dems are going to manage to pull a defeat right outa the jaws of victory yet again. But hey they're damn good at overplaying their hand.

              If they can manage to make trump look like the reasonable one in the room they'll have really managed something.

              We have a bunch of children running our government.
              Last edited by NOS68; 01-19-2019, 06:31 PM.

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              • #11
                The dems have got it right. They should start with the shutdown, both democrats & republicans, trump & pelosi. Compromise & end the shutdown, put all the federal employees back to work & start paying them FIRST.. trump stuck to the same $5.7 billion ransom that he knows is a non-starter & threw in a meaningless PR offer. There's absolutely nothing from either side except "make the other side look bad".
                My suggestion.....
                Regardless of the legalities, it is time for the federal employees to walk out. Give these non-serving, self -serving politicians a taste of what a real shutdown is. Give the rest of the nation a taste of what they are suffering through.
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                • #12
                  The wise robes just refused to put the DACA case on their docket, and a federal court has previously already ruled against Donald on it.

                  So his offer is empty.
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                  • #13
                    [QUOTE=redEL34;n32454702]
                    Originally posted by EdBega View Post
                    All reasonable and spoken like a true leader...


                    It`s more than reasonable. A greater percentage of the budget probably goes for toilet paper and pens. This is purely political since the people against it now voted for it before. It looks like it`s backfiring.
                    https://www.mediaite.com/trump/shock...wall-shutdown/ That`s an NPR/PBS poll. Not surprising to me at all.
                    good points, wrong audience...
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                    • #14
                      Originally posted by Into Nation View Post
                      Dems offering nothing apparently. They are

                      https://www.npr.org/2019/01/19/68687..._campaign=news

                      Oh, and **** Ann Coulter.
                      If the Democrats pays Trump the ransom he's demanding for him to stop punishing innocent Federal employees and their families, it would just encourage him to do something like this again in the future.

                      I've still heard nothing about where he wants to build a fence, how much fence will be erected, what the expected results of installing the fence would be, or how erecting this fence would compare in cost to other methods of control, especially considering that any money would have to borrowed in excess of the $1 trillion budget for 2018.

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                      • EdBega
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                        Didn't watch the speech ?

                      • Tom Hicks
                        Tom Hicks commented
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                        Speech lacked the details he seeks.

                        Right?

                      • BadDaddy
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                        No, as Trump is a pathological liar I prefer to wait until the transcript is published so that I can fact check anything he has said. Did he give specifics on how much fencing would be erected or where specifically it would be erected, or cite any credible studies that give specifics on the expected control for the money spent?

                        This issue has nothing to do with National security or controlling illegal immigration and is just Trump's political grand standing.

                    • #15
                      [QUOTE=wallywanker;n32454731]
                      Originally posted by redEL34 View Post

                      good points, wrong audience...
                      At least they're not going guano crazy... lol ...pretty quiet here
                      "Plunk your Magic Twanger, Froggy". Andy Devine

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