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  • #46
    Originally posted by guido61 View Post

    How much are you paying now for private insurance?
    A lot less than what I pay in taxes... in fact, I just double-checked - it's less than half as much, and that includes not only what I pay for medical insurance, but also includes various disability and life insurance premiums too.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe View Post

      A lot less than what I pay in taxes... in fact, I just double-checked - it's less than half as much, and that includes not only what I pay for medical insurance, but also includes various disability and life insurance premiums too.
      I was talking about the Medicare portion. not your entire tax bill. If we took most of that same money people are paying now for private insurance and applied to that to a single payer program, that would certainly go a long ways towards covering what we need.

      But somewhere in the midst of all of this there HAS to be some sort of solution to the health care problem. Throwing our hands up and doing nothing isn't going to work either.

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      • #48
        Medicare (for people below retirement age) should simply be an "option". If you dont want to buy insurance from a private company, you should be able to buy it from the government. The government can use its immense buying power to negotiate lower prices from providers and spread the risk pool out over a wider group.

        Then insurance companies would have to compete. Sure, some greasy CEO might have to settle for a Bentley instead of a Rolls, but I am willing to make that sacrifice.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by BA.Barcolounger View Post
          Medicare (for people below retirement age) should simply be an "option". If you dont want to buy insurance from a private company, you should be able to buy it from the government. The government can use its immense buying power to negotiate lower prices from providers and spread the risk pool out over a wider group.

          Then insurance companies would have to compete. Sure, some greasy CEO might have to settle for a Bentley instead of a Rolls, but I am willing to make that sacrifice.
          When it became clear that a public option was not going to be part of the ACA, that was when I pretty much jumped off board for supporting it.

          Just trying to force people and employers to buy private insurance? That was never an idea I thought made much sense.

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          • #50
            Why don't we ask Canada, or France, or the UK, or Denmark, or Japan, or any other civilized country on the planet how they manage it.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by moogerfooger View Post

              WOW- is there anything you cant be wrong about? we became a net exporter of oil during the obama administration.

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              In total energy consumption, the U.S. was between 86% and 91% self-sufficient in 2016.[1] In May 2011, the country became a net exporter of refined petroleum products.[2] As of 2014, the United States was the world's third-largest producer of crude oil, after Saudi Arabia and Russia.[3]and second largest exporter of refined products, after Russia.[4]


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              • #52
                Sure, maybe we're seeing a little more debt, but certainly Trump has gotten the trade deficit under control by now.

                RIght?

                Wait....what's that you say....?


                U.S. trade deficit hits the highest level in a decade



                Last edited by guido61; 12-06-2018, 07:58 PM.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Uncle Figgy View Post

                  LOL Mr. triple the debt? He wouldn't dare mention it. HILARIOUS !!!
                  Despite his inheriting the worst economic conditions since the great depression, the National debt didn't triple under Obama, but increased 74%, which was still lower than the 101% increase under Bush.
                  https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-b...ercent-3306296

                  The U.S. was pumping just 5.1 million barrels per day when Obama took office in January 2009, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

                  Fast forward to April and the U.S. produced 8.9 million barrels per day. That's an incredible 74% increase. In fact, in 2015, the U.S. pumped the most oil in 43 years.
                  https://money.cnn.com/2016/07/21/inv...oom/index.html

                  You keep defending Trump as a great businessman and negotiator, and yet when you look at Trump's accomplishments, it would appear that nothing could be further from the truth.

                  Robert Reich has determined that if Trump would have invested his $200 million inheritance into the money market, that today he would be worth $12 billion, but after the Times reviewed the tax filing for the Fred Trump estate, we now know that Donald Trump inherited $421 million, meaning that if he would have invested that into the money market that he would have $24 billion today, yet he only has $4 billion, but then just look at his history with business, like Trump Casinos, Trump Magazine, Trump Mortgage, Trump Airlines, Trump Vodka, Trump Steaks, Trump University, and Trump Development, all which had massive failures.

                  Trump inherited an economy that had been steadily growing for over 7 years, with Federal deficit spending that had been declining for over 2 years, and now, his budget deficit is projected to exceed $1 trillion, his tax cuts will create a $2.4 trillion revenue deficit over a 10 year period, and since he started a trade war with our trading partners, our trade deficits have substantially increased, while many of our manufacturers are shedding jobs.

                  Face it, Trump is an inept, adulterous, narcissist, pathological lying sociopath,, who has alienated our Allies, our trading partners, and made us a laughing stock with the rest of the world, and yet you still support him. Go figure.
                  Last edited by BadDaddy; 12-06-2018, 10:54 PM.

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                  • #54
                    Only people with TDS talk about Trump’s actual achivements instead of parroting his claimed achievements.

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