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  • America not the greatest country in the world anymore?

    Is America the greatest country? I came across this older video and it really made me think.

    Winning an argument with a smart person is difficult. Winning an argument with a stupid person is damn near impossible.

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    It never was for the liberal and always was for the conservative, by definition. The liberal can never be satisfied with anything, by nature, cannot and therefore will not be cornered to define it, and the conservative cannot understand how that can be applied to governing a nation. If one cannot define what he wants the other cannot work to meet him on the bargaining floor.
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    • #3
      Far from it, this country sucks.
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      • Hoddy
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        We have matters to take care of.

    • #4
      when was it ever the greatest?
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      • Turd Furgison
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        you forgot 1861-65

    • #5
      It probably is the greatest, for what that's worth. Being the greatest doesn't translate into the highest quality of life for its citizens, but we can enjoy it on an abstract level.
      Last edited by Zooey; 11-10-2018, 10:19 PM.

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      • #6
        Originally posted by Idunno View Post
        It never was for the liberal and always was for the conservative, by definition. The liberal can never be satisfied with anything, by nature, cannot and therefore will not be cornered to define it, and the conservative cannot understand how that can be applied to governing a nation. If one cannot define what he wants the other cannot work to meet him on the bargaining floor.
        Close.

        The more accurate truth is that the liberal thinks the country WILL be great in the future if only certain things will happen...

        the conservative believes the country once WAS great and would still be if only certain things had never happened...

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        • #7
          Originally posted by guido61 View Post

          Close.

          The more accurate truth is that the liberal thinks the country WILL be great in the future if only certain things will happen...

          the conservative believes the country once WAS great and would still be if only certain things had never happened...
          That's an interesting way to look at it. I like it.
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          • #8
            Originally posted by guido61 View Post

            Close.

            The more accurate truth is that the liberal thinks the country WILL be great in the future if only certain things will happen...

            the conservative believes the country once WAS great and would still be if only certain things had never happened...
            Agree 100%
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            • #9
              Oh, and for the record, I think America has been the greatest country in the world for the majority of Americans. The hard part (that seems to be what causes most of the political division in this country) seems to be making this country great for those not in the majority as well. For some odd reason, those in the majority don't seem willing to share. Not very 'American', if you ask me.
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              • #10
                This country has lost it's way. The jingoism about freedom and equality is just hollow rhetoric. We have come close in the past, but the selfish voices of materialism, racism, and nationalism have turned this into a place that is nothing to be proud of anymore.
                The middle/working class has been decimated and the poor are still scapegoats and targets. Our citizens are mass murdering each other on the regular, while the biggest crimes - that produced the 2008 crash, went un- punished, and were paid off on the backs of those who can afford it least.

                Worst, I feel we have seen the true hearts of our countrymen, by the fact they voted for a president who should have been a sad little asterisk in the history of the country.

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                • #11
                  Originally posted by Idunno View Post
                  It never was for the liberal and always was for the conservative, by definition. The liberal can never be satisfied with anything, by nature, cannot and therefore will not be cornered to define it, and the conservative cannot understand how that can be applied to governing a nation. If one cannot define what he wants the other cannot work to meet him on the bargaining floor.
                  Didn't watch the video, huh?
                  "Truth is what stands the test of experience."

                  ...Albert Einstein

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                  • #12
                    Originally posted by Daryl Flynn View Post
                    "No one wants RINOs anymore, so America sucks now."




                    Why use the term “RINO” as a criticism when you yourself would rather have “MAGA” than “Republican” as your party name?
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                    • #13
                      It's debatable. For many of us this is no better than a third world country.
                      15 Ways The United States Is The Best (At Being The Worst)


                      https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...n_4170683.html


                      And now we have our worst president.
                      https://theweek.com/articles/779929/...erican-history

                      Think about it. How can a nation that elects a total schmuck like Trump be the best? We are weak, The proof is electing this creep.
                      Last edited by Hoot Owl; 11-11-2018, 11:45 AM.
                      George Washington was the man who never told a lie. Richard Nixon was the man who never told the truth. Donald Trump is the man who doesn't know the difference.
                      Venezuela is what happens when you have Trump without the Madison.

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                      • #14
                        Originally posted by Hoot Owl View Post
                        It's debatable. For many of us this is no better than a third world country.
                        15 Ways The United States Is The Best (At Being The Worst)


                        https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...n_4170683.html
                        Anybody and I mean anybody who thinks living here is no better than a 3rd world country needs to try living in a 3rd world country.

                        We have many failings and could do a lot better in a lot of areas but even the poorest here have it better than the poor in the 3rd world IMO.
                        Last edited by NOS68; 11-11-2018, 11:46 AM.

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                        • panhandler
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                          Better than many, not as good as some.

                      • #15
                        Originally posted by Daryl Flynn View Post

                        Because RINOs are what ruined the GOP.
                        "RINO"
                        There is yet another example of the way conservatives put labels on people in an attempt to denigrate.


                        And before someone says, what about "deplorables"?
                        Charlottsville. One of many solid examples.
                        Last edited by Hoot Owl; 11-11-2018, 11:57 AM.
                        George Washington was the man who never told a lie. Richard Nixon was the man who never told the truth. Donald Trump is the man who doesn't know the difference.
                        Venezuela is what happens when you have Trump without the Madison.

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