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  • #31
    Originally posted by wallywanker View Post

    So do something about it - don't just post crap from u.s. news and world report - if you think trump is that bad then work to get the bastard out. things can only get better for you and the band if you get this clown out of office, right? if everyone has `proof' that trump is a criminal then he will go down - just like nixon - i, personally, don't have the proof - but if you have the smoking gun then you can bring this to an end. please share whatever additional evidence you have with the appropriate authorities and lets wrap this up. i know at least maxine waters and tom steyer are totally down with your cause and will give you whatever air time you need to bring your evidence to the public.
    Do you not understand how the system you say you do support works? Or are you just obfuscating?

    the only “appropriate authorities” are the Congress. They won’t do anything for obvious reasons.

    So we wait until the next election and hope for the best. In the meantime? Yes. That what the “crap” is for. to hopefully influence the vote.

    Why do you call the article “crap”? Can you refute anything in it? Or will you just blather?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by New Trail View Post
      A buddy of mine says he hates Trump, thinks he's a disgrace, etc., etc., but "I've made $50,000 in my retirement fund since he's been president" so, damn!
      I have found this to be a common theme of most modern conservatives I have met. I've got mine, screw you.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe View Post
        I look at it from a slightly different perspective:

        If the money's NOT flowing, nothing else matters.

        After all, you've gotta eat, put a roof over your family's head, etc. etc.
        So, money is the most important thing in life?


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        • #34
          Originally posted by wallywanker View Post

          well, he's still giving his salary away,

          Trump had donated his first-quarter salary — $78,333.32 — to the National Park Service
          President Trump was donating $100,000, his salary for the second quarter of the year, to the Education Department to help fund a science camp.
          President Donald Trump has donated his third-quarter presidential salary to the Department of Health and Human Services’ efforts to combat the opioid crisis, the department and the White House announced Thursday.

          but hey, if he can cash in like obama on the backside who cares -

          Obama scores another $400K speaking fee amid criticism
          https://nypost.com/2017/04/27/obama-...mid-criticism/

          Even as President Obama faced criticism for getting $400,000 for a speech to a Wall Street bank, he pocketed the same amount of money for a second speech, The Post has learned.

          Obama made another $400,000 on Thursday when he appeared at the A&E Networks advertising upfront at The Pierre Hotel. He was interviewed over 90 minutes at the Midtown Manhattan event by presidential historian Doris Kearns Goodwin in front of the cable network’s advertisers.

          Barack and Michelle Obama signed a deal with Netflix to make original shows and movies
          http://www.businessinsider.com/barac...-movies-2018-5

          "Sources close to the negotiations told CNN that the payout was a "high 8-figure deal."

          but, of course, obama's intentions are `true', so that just shows what a loser trump really is ...
          he's giving his salary away - to whom? Not to me and you lol


          Mar a Lago Every time president fat-ass wants to go golfing and, it costs the taxpayers 10 times his salary amount

          such an obviously empty publicity stunt


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          • #35
            Originally posted by wallywanker View Post

            well, he's still giving his salary away,

            Trump had donated his first-quarter salary — $78,333.32 — to the National Park Service
            President Trump was donating $100,000, his salary for the second quarter of the year, to the Education Department to help fund a science camp.
            The billionaire gives his salary away.

            yay.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by HAMMER TOSS View Post

              So, money is the most important thing in life?

              Yep, that's exactly what Phil said.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by The Badger View Post

                Grab the money while you can. The Trump Bubble in the stock market won't last forever. When it does burst, an awful lot of people are going to lose an awful lot of money. I've seen one doomsday prediction that Trump might even trigger the second "Great Depression."
                Which sector is the "bubble" you speak of? Banking? Energy? Manufacturing? Construction? I want to know, so I can stock up on puts - you are shorting the market yourself, right?
                "The historical experience of socialist countries has sadly demonstrated that collectivism does not do away with alienation but rather increases it, adding to it a lack of basic necessities and economic inefficiency." ------------------ Pope John Paul II

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by SteinbergerHack View Post

                  Which sector is the "bubble" you speak of? Banking? Energy? Manufacturing? Construction? I want to know, so I can stock up on puts - you are shorting the market yourself, right?

                  Depends who you ask. Lots of dire predictions out there right now. (There’s always some).

                  Tech and cryptocurrencies are often noted as two sectors to watch out for.

                  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...ket-crash/amp/

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by guido61 View Post


                    Depends who you ask. Lots of dire predictions out there right now. (There’s always some).

                    Tech and cryptocurrencies are often noted as two sectors to watch out for.

                    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...ket-crash/amp/
                    Tech has been spending like crazy on renewed capital investment since the tax incentives were passed. Expect lower short-term profits as a result, which will drop share prices by a bit for a year or so, but IMO that will be a buying opportunity for future growth.

                    Cryptocurrencies are a real question mark. Right now, there is no clear predictor of future value, as the real underlying driver is blockchain, and nobody has come up with a way to lock it down for a specific implementation. I wish I had jumped into Bitcoin when it first cam out, but it's way too late to see it as a high-growth investment. In any case, this is not a large enough market sector to really matter; the whole thing could go to zero and not make a dent in the Russell 2000.

                    But yeah, the great majority of the loud vocal bears today are the perma-bears, not the big movers. Big money is still all in.

                    [The point of my post was to ask Badger for some underlying rationale for his statement.]
                    Last edited by SteinbergerHack; 06-02-2018, 08:55 AM.
                    "The historical experience of socialist countries has sadly demonstrated that collectivism does not do away with alienation but rather increases it, adding to it a lack of basic necessities and economic inefficiency." ------------------ Pope John Paul II

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by SteinbergerHack View Post

                      Tech has been spending like crazy on renewed capital investment since the tax incentives were passed. Expect lower short-term profits as a result, which will drop share prices by a bit for a year or so, but IMO that will be a buying opportunity for future growth.

                      Cryptocurrencies are a real question mark. Right now, there is no clear predictor of future value, as the real underlying driver is blockchain, and nobody has come up with a way to lock it down for a specific implementation. I wish I had jumped into Bitcoin when it first cam out, but it's way too late to see it as a high-growth investment. In any case, this is not a large enough market sector to really matter; the whole thing could go to zero and not make a dent in the Russell 2000.

                      But yeah, the great majority of the loud vocal bears today are the perma-bears, not the big movers. Big money is still all in.
                      Big money is always still all in until it isn’t.

                      That’s why when it DOES happen, they call it a “crash”.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by guido61 View Post

                        Thanks for going to all the trouble to look that stuff up and copy and paste it, but It’s not the salary or the book deals that has anyone concerned.

                        Its the money he’s making due to graft and corruption.

                        https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usn...%3fcontext=amp
                        Trump, from your link:
                        "The president can't have a conflict of interest,"

                        He thinks he's king. To him, his work is equal to the people's work, at best.
                        From now on, Republicans have zero credibility when they criticize Democrat presidents for anything similar. We've gone down the rat hole of graft and corruption in a big way.


                        George Washington was the man who never told a lie. Richard Nixon was the man who never told the truth. Donald Trump is the man who doesn't know the difference.
                        Venezuela is what happens when you have Trump without the Madison.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by guido61 View Post

                          Big money is always still all in until it isn’t.

                          That’s why when it DOES happen, they call it a “crash”.
                          Nah, you can see it happening before everything goes south. There are indicators that show where the large volume movers are going, and they show you when the big drops are coming. If you wait to see the index prices, yes, it looks as if everything suddenly happened; meanwhile, the guys who have been shorting and selling large blocks are waiting for the price drop so that they can get back in.
                          "The historical experience of socialist countries has sadly demonstrated that collectivism does not do away with alienation but rather increases it, adding to it a lack of basic necessities and economic inefficiency." ------------------ Pope John Paul II

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by SteinbergerHack View Post

                            Nah, you can see it happening before everything goes south. There are indicators that show where the large volume movers are going, and they show you when the big drops are coming. If you wait to see the index prices, yes, it looks as if everything suddenly happened; meanwhile, the guys who have been shorting and selling large blocks are waiting for the price drop so that they can get back in.
                            Sure. That’s why nobody ever loses their shirt during crashes. Because they all see it happening beforehand and act accordingly.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by HAMMER TOSS View Post

                              The billionaire gives his salary away.

                              yay.
                              Safe to say, he sees it as an investment in himself - PR.
                              Or perhaps more accurately, he sees it as a balance to the graft. A sort-of 'look over there'.
                              Same thing goes for the pardons he's doing. It's look over there, while Trump prepares to pardon those who could do him harm. This administration is one of nonstop corruption.

                              George Washington was the man who never told a lie. Richard Nixon was the man who never told the truth. Donald Trump is the man who doesn't know the difference.
                              Venezuela is what happens when you have Trump without the Madison.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by guido61 View Post

                                Sure. That’s why nobody ever loses their shirt during crashes. Because they all see it happening beforehand and act accordingly.
                                The majority of people who lose a lot are the little guys who don't pay attention until the headlines tell them too, then they sell out and lock in their losses. People on the ends of the spectrum don't suffer that fate; they either ignore the headlines and stick to buy-and-hold and wait for the recovery, or they are watching the market very closely and are already out before the big drop happens.

                                You are ALWAYS better off just ignoring the daily stock prices and just riding out the storm, if you're not watching the secondary and tertiary indicators (put/call ratios, trade volume indicators, etc.).
                                "The historical experience of socialist countries has sadly demonstrated that collectivism does not do away with alienation but rather increases it, adding to it a lack of basic necessities and economic inefficiency." ------------------ Pope John Paul II

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