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  • #16
    That's pretty funny. Nothing wrong with that.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by daddymack View Post
      its probably stream-able from the bands FB page... . . .
      If it is, I don't want to know. I remember something about sticking her foot out the window and not taking her shoes off but that's all the details I can recall.

      Originally posted by daddymack View Post
      . . . and who says you're not a stand-up comic? If whatever you do on the stage makes the audience react positively, then it works.

      For instance, Tuesday night, our blues jam hosting gig, after the third song, I said ' Those of you familiar with our band may have noticed we are missing one of our founding members; Could we have a moment of silence? No, he's not dead, he's on a week long cruise with his wife...'. It got a good laugh...but that is the other piece, it can't just be random, it really has to relate, in the moment.
      True as far as it goes. Some years ago Mrs. DeepEnd and I saw Leo Kottke perform live and he told a couple of good jokes but his main draw is as a guitarist.
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      • #18
        I have not seen Leo in decades, bu I remember him as having a rather sardonic wit...he was my duo parner's idol, so we would see him every time he was anywhere nearby...like 100 miles...
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        Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally used up and worn out, shouting '...man, what a ride!'

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        • #19
          We don't do banter much at all in my cover band. I never really thought about it until I did a fill in gig recently. The singer rallied the crowd, called for socials, held the mic out to them for crowd participation pars like "da da da" on sweet caroline (we didn't do that one, just using it as an example).

          The whole night, this guy kept the bar packed til close. He didn't spend more than 15-30 seconds just talking... it was either a quick rally, or a crowd participation event like doing the socials.

          The bar told us later that it was the best night they ever had on liquor.

          Now I get it.
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          • #20
            In the case above, if he is a singer who isn't playing an instrument, then that guy is doing what a front man does: he hypes the crowd. It is a bit more challenging when you are playing an instrument, and singing lead, and trying to get the room involved, but it can be done.
            "We are currently experiencing some technical difficulties due to reality fluctuations. The elves are working tirelessly to patch the correct version of reality. Activities here have been temporarily disabled since the fundamentals of mathematics, physics and reason may be incomprehensible during this indeterminate period of instability. Normal service will be restored once we are certain as to what 'normal' is."

            Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally used up and worn out, shouting '...man, what a ride!'

            "The greatness of a man is not in how much wealth he acquires, but in his integrity and his ability to affect those around him positively" ~Bob Marley

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Kramerguy View Post
              We don't do banter much at all in my cover band. I never really thought about it until I did a fill in gig recently. The singer rallied the crowd, called for socials, held the mic out to them for crowd participation pars like "da da da" on sweet caroline (we didn't do that one, just using it as an example).

              The whole night, this guy kept the bar packed til close. He didn't spend more than 15-30 seconds just talking... it was either a quick rally, or a crowd participation event like doing the socials.

              The bar told us later that it was the best night they ever had on liquor.

              Now I get it.
              Especially in this day and age, getting the crowd involved is SO important.

              A great front guy can work a crowd like magic. But even with my band, we've worked up a few 'bits' that are tried-and-true for us and without fail get the crowd involved and leaves them thinking they had the best time ever. Fortunately for us we don't play for the same crowds over and over so we can use the same bits repeatedly. And it just takes a few. For the most part, we play the entire set straight through with no gaps between songs, except for 2 or 3 times a set where we specifically stop to do something with the crowd.

              And the getting-them-to-sing-along stuff works great too.

              But few bands are so good, or play in environments, where just giving them a "concert" to look at/listen to is going to be enough.

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              • #22
                When I gigged on the cruise ships the crowd turned over every week, so we could do the same shtick over and over and over, week after week. It was a good way to find out what worked consistently and what worked only occasionally.

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                • #23
                  my gigs are worlds apart... my background allows me some tools to comfort others in dealing with their emotions... (most of the time). but then my comfort zone used to be being the lead in crisis intervention teams at whatever mental hospital i was working, so...
                  the very nature of what im doing can allow for torrential emotional outbursts or states of bliss and serenity... and everything in between. my little niche allows me freedoms only dreamed of before gongs. its required to talk to my audience, no banter.. its education. most have no clue what theyve signed on for and those that do know dont mind being reminded of how simple the path can be.. first, im really unfamiliar. i dont dress or conduct myself in accordance with popular culture. the instruments i employ are unfamiliar. (when was the last time you were physically present with a 54” chau gong?, a kyiizii? tingshas? futujara? do you even know what they are without google?, and you are musicians!). further i have developed a playing style that is apparently unique... two schools in DC approached with a desire to have me teach after hearing me play at Catharsis on the Mall. two students from one school honored me at their first recital at the smithsonian on my last visit... this is a different world. i dont ask for quiet... rarely need to... its like theyre waiting for me to speak... this is definitely not your fathers oldsmobile! example... my last performance at Catharsis was @ 1:30 am sunday morning. it began saturday as a sunrise meditation for increasing the frequency of compassionate action on our planet. it began with the intention of being a two hour, give or take, meditation... at 11:30pm i fell out, the medic said complete exhaustion, dehydration... i slept for two hours and as awakened by a storm... and 163 people singing at the top of their lungs... i learned that someone told about my experience with hurricane michael and a little ptsd thing so they were drowning out the sound of the storm... for me... they had cared for me as if i was beloved family. as i stood,the rains were stopping and i heard someone ask... “is he going to play?”... silence... looking around the dome i recognized artists and people i know and artists and people i know only from pictures or internet... almost every one of them i remembered a kindness from... a flash of inspiration! i walked into the crowd and took the hands of the first person and spoke the kindness i had witnessed them perform... i began passing each, in turn, the few i didn’t recognize i hugged if receptive and thanked them for being...the entire time, everyone remained silent and attentive...ok, there was a lot laughter and happy crying... i would guess that in your venues, this might not work... but in this one, that particular moment, we shook washington DC from a little dome on the mall... this led to what i feel was the best public performance of my life, on any instrument, period.
                  certainly for myself, a lifetime memory. thank you, adam eidinger!
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                  • #24
                    Played a trio gig at a restaurant yesterday. . . . . elevated deck with a beautiful view of the Maine coast. The crowd ran the gamut from folks in their 80s down to toddlers. A few people watched us intently, but everyone was silent at the end of each song. Undaunted, I said a few words from time to time, but mostly kept things moving. At the end of the set, I walked through the crowd to get to the bar, and someone from each table turned to tell me how much they liked us! By the end of the second set, we had some banter going, occasional applause including folks sitting at a lower level deck who couldn't see us! How curious that it often takes a set before people warm up to you enough to clap and talk back to you!?

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                    • #25
                      There is one particular yacht club that I've been playing at a couple of times per year for a number of years now. They never applause, they never react except for a little dancing after dinner. We do zero banter unless the management wants us to make an announcement or if someone wants a happy birthday.

                      The dinner set we run at about 65dba and after dinner around 80. The first time we played there, we figured they didn't like us and we'd never be back. But as they passed the stage on the way out we got thumbs up, smiles, and thank you comments. When we were done the ones that stayed thanked us for a wonderful evening.

                      Years later, it's still the same. We're used to it, and look forward to returning.

                      Every gig is different, and that is part of what makes this profession interesting.

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