Members Hell Bites Posted March 28, 2004 Members Share Posted March 28, 2004 Are there any any reasonably priced (cheap) rack gear with good tracking. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Search4tone Posted March 28, 2004 Members Share Posted March 28, 2004 Cheap Price range:Rocktron XpressionRocktron IntellifexTC G Major Medium Price range:G ForceFireworxLexicon High PriceEventideLexicon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shask Posted March 28, 2004 Members Share Posted March 28, 2004 Digitech IPS-33B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hell Bites Posted March 28, 2004 Author Members Share Posted March 28, 2004 Thanks for the quick reply. The G-Major and Rocktron Effects Racks look cool. I remember hearing something bad about the G-Major programming though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Search4tone Posted March 28, 2004 Members Share Posted March 28, 2004 Originally posted by Hell Bites Thanks for the quick reply. The G-Major and Rocktron Effects Racks look cool. I remember hearing something bad about the G-Major programming though... The programming is real easy. You are probably thinking of issues using the unit in parallel with a dry kill, which has been resolved with the latest update frome TC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hepburn Posted March 30, 2004 Members Share Posted March 30, 2004 also the Whammy 4. I know it's not actually rack, but it can be controlled via midi so a possible cheapish solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members somata Posted March 30, 2004 Members Share Posted March 30, 2004 the g-major doesn't have an intelligent pitch shifter though, so depending on how far you're shifting, and how much you use it for chord work, it does search for the notes a bit...i tend to like that digital gurgle and utilize it for noise/ambient stuff, but if you're looking for a clean shifter, you should be aware of it... an inexpensive solution might be one of the older digitech artist processors..the 2101 (i think that's the model, someone correct me if i'm wrong) i believe incorporates intelligent pitch shifting and also has the ability to bypass the preamp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tonedoctor1 Posted March 30, 2004 Members Share Posted March 30, 2004 rocktron intellipitch if you can find a used one somewhere. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sonik Posted March 30, 2004 Members Share Posted March 30, 2004 Originally posted by somata an inexpensive solution might be one of the older digitech artist processors..the 2101 (i think that's the model, someone correct me if i'm wrong) i believe incorporates intelligent pitch shifting and also has the ability to bypass the preamp... I have a 2101 artist model and it does indeed have intelligent pitch shifting, and preamp bypass. The pitshifting leaves somthing be desired (if your looking for clean and accurat) but its workable. Going down one octave or slight detunes sound best. Its really not a bad beginner multi-fx unit, probably can get them very cheap on ebay nowadays. I hate to look because I paid 1100$ or so for mine brand new when it came out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stilwel Posted March 30, 2004 Members Share Posted March 30, 2004 The Digitech IPS33B and DHP33 processors are easily the best band-for-the-buck harmonizers out there. I've had both, and I ended up with the DHP33. The DHP55 is good too. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cougar Hunter Posted March 30, 2004 Members Share Posted March 30, 2004 Originally posted by stilwel The Digitech IPS33B and DHP33 processors are easily the best band-for-the-buck harmonizers out there.I've had both, and I ended up with the DHP33.The DHP55 is good too.Jason Are those intelligent?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members whammy boy67 Posted March 30, 2004 Members Share Posted March 30, 2004 Originally posted by Hepburn also the Whammy 4. I know it's not actually rack, but it can be controlled via midi so a possible cheapish solution. +1 Mine sits velcroed to the bottom of my rack behind my power amp. The cabling is a bit horrendous back there but I can control it from my Behringer and it saves space that I don't have on my pedal board. If your controller has expression pedals on them it's a good choice. Good luck! - Erich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitar2326 Posted March 31, 2004 Members Share Posted March 31, 2004 On the whammy 4, you can harmonize an octave as well as any interval between while still having the original note playing. You can also pitch shift 2 octaves or one octave up or down, dive bomb, drop tune, and detune. It did seem to have a little trouble tracking once when I left it in the middle instead of up or down, but it actually just made a really cool sound cause it couldnt really stick at one note. But when all the way up, it seems pretty good at tracking. I havent had any problems with it so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gold49 Posted March 31, 2004 Members Share Posted March 31, 2004 I have a beheringer dsp2024, the pitch is ok has semi plus 1 oct to minus 1 oct or in cent , can be used three way's (like having thre shifters at once) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stilwel Posted March 31, 2004 Members Share Posted March 31, 2004 Originally posted by guitarslinger213 Are those intelligent?? Yes, all of them are. Select the harmony type, the interval, scale, mode etc. 2 part harmonies, 3 if you count the part you are playing. Both units were designed by IVL technologies, the guys who did the original WH-1 Whammy pedal for Digitech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hepburn Posted March 31, 2004 Members Share Posted March 31, 2004 Originally posted by stilwel Yes, all of them are. Select the harmony type, the interval, scale, mode etc. 2 part harmonies, 3 if you count the part you are playing. Both units were designed by IVL technologies, the guys who did the original WH-1 Whammy pedal for Digitech. The best rack unit is the Digitech Vocalist II, designed for vocals (well duh) quite a lot of pros* who use whammy actually use this. Fantastic bit of kit and should go for less then 200 (sterling) *well I know of at least one! David Gilmour has one in his live rack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSage Posted March 31, 2004 Members Share Posted March 31, 2004 Originally posted by stilwel The Digitech IPS33B and DHP33 processors are easily the best band-for-the-buck harmonizers out there.I've had both, and I ended up with the DHP33.The DHP55 is good too.Jason I may have an extra DHP-33 in the next day or so...PM me if anyone's interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shask Posted April 1, 2004 Members Share Posted April 1, 2004 Originally posted by stilwel Yes, all of them are.Select the harmony type, the interval, scale, mode etc. 2 part harmonies, 3 if you count the part you are playing.Both units were designed by IVL technologies, the guys who did the original WH-1 Whammy pedal for Digitech. Why is the DHP-33 better than the IPS-33B? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stilwel Posted April 1, 2004 Members Share Posted April 1, 2004 Originally posted by Shask Why is the DHP-33 better than the IPS-33B? I didn't say it was any better.... They are virtually the same unit. The DHP33 is an IPS33B with a modern cosmetic upgrade. I had them both at the same time. I performed a back to back test. I couldn't tell the difference between the two, so I kept the newer one. stilwel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shask Posted April 1, 2004 Members Share Posted April 1, 2004 Originally posted by stilwel I didn't say it was any better....They are virtually the same unit. The DHP33 is an IPS33B with a modern cosmetic upgrade.I had them both at the same time. I performed a back to back test. I couldn't tell the difference between the two, so I kept the newer one.stilwel Any less noisy or anything? Whats the difference with the DHP-55? I had a IPS-33B at one point in time. Sometimes I think about getting another... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cougar Hunter Posted March 20, 2006 Members Share Posted March 20, 2006 Originally posted by Shask Any less noisy or anything?Whats the difference with the DHP-55?I had a IPS-33B at one point in time. Sometimes I think about getting another... I heard the 55 model was developed in-house as opposed to the 33 models and vocalist models that were developed by IVL or whatever. The IVL's apparently have better tracking. The DHP-33 prices have been climbing since the beginning of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSage Posted March 20, 2006 Members Share Posted March 20, 2006 Originally posted by guitarslinger The DHP-33 prices have been climbing since the beginning of this thread. Wow...this is an old thread. I think just about every pedal price has climbed since the start of this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BEAD Posted March 20, 2006 Members Share Posted March 20, 2006 I have a digitech smart shift. It was cheap, and it sounds cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SlipKid Posted March 21, 2006 Members Share Posted March 21, 2006 I've got the DHP55, and like it just fine. I don't know if others do the job better, but I used it a couple times just for replicating the "shimmer" effect that the Edge uses. It gets some really interesting sounds going that I've only begun to delve into, but I haven't made full use of it yet. I couldn't resist picking it up when I found a used one at a GC. Stilwel, I gather that you're using the DHP33 for shimmer, primarily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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