Members Astral-sky Posted January 19, 2008 Members Share Posted January 19, 2008 Hi Since I sold my MKIV I have been longing a multi channel set up. I run into a Quad preamp at a local store & tried it out. I was looking for a good clean tone (Fenderish), Crunch Rhythm (AC/DC) and High gain smooth liquid lead (John Sykes type tone) I have to ask because the unit seemed quite dull , with very little gain. just how much gain does the Quad pramp have ? The unit did not enough gain for Old school Hard rock /Metal No gain for lead. So im wondering if anyone has sound clips of the unit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -Juggernaut- Posted January 19, 2008 Members Share Posted January 19, 2008 I dont, but check here. http://www.netmusicians.org/index.php also the Egnater M4 maybe exactly what you need, to tailor your tone to each channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members separanets Posted January 19, 2008 Members Share Posted January 19, 2008 When at last I recieve it, I'll be able to answer all the questions about the Mesa Quad (it's still being shipped). When at last I recieve it, I'll be able to answer all the questions about the Mesa Quad (it's still being shipped). A few more links http://www.tubefreak.com/tubefreak.html http://www.tubefreak.com/quad.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members separanets Posted January 19, 2008 Members Share Posted January 19, 2008 Double , soryy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FastRedPonyCar Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 I can't speak for the quad but the studio preamp I use has tons of gain. Not as much as my carvin V3 did but it does have more clarity and less compression at high gain/volume. It's pretty much petrucci's "images and words" tone in a box. I don't even have to try and can nail the heavy chugging intro part of "pull me under". Thats' the type gain it's got. From what I've heard the quads have a little more and a hair more agressive voicing. For what they're worth, here's a clip of the clean and overdrive channels of my preamp into the power section of a 6L6 powered carvin valvemaster amp. Hopefully they'll give you a good idea of what it does and can make an estimation of what the quad can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members separanets Posted January 23, 2008 Members Share Posted January 23, 2008 FastRedPonyCarI'm curious, that chugging which you started with 4:00, could you tell me your mesa studio settings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FastRedPonyCar Posted January 23, 2008 Members Share Posted January 23, 2008 yeah on the clean video I show the settings I used for both clips. One thing worth noting though is that I only use the recording outputs. the main outputs (there may be something wrong with em) they're very harsh and fizzy and icepicky. the recording outs are very smooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members separanets Posted January 24, 2008 Members Share Posted January 24, 2008 Ok, actually, the EQ settings are hardly seen, or not seen at all. And I couldn't see the Fat switch on/off (suppose it's off) and were the settings the same when you switched from the rythm to lead? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FastRedPonyCar Posted January 24, 2008 Members Share Posted January 24, 2008 it's a soft V shape that goes up more on the highs than the lows. Fat and presence switches for lead channel are on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members separanets Posted January 24, 2008 Members Share Posted January 24, 2008 Ah, ok, that's important I've never used the Fat and Presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members El Grinder Posted January 24, 2008 Members Share Posted January 24, 2008 Sounds almost like that quad needed its tubes changed. (The one tried out in the store in the first post, that is.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members separanets Posted January 24, 2008 Members Share Posted January 24, 2008 I can't wait, tomorrow a postman will deliver my Quad to me -- sign here, please, here, and here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members separanets Posted January 28, 2008 Members Share Posted January 28, 2008 Finally I got it, but I have to say this Quad doesnt sound as good as my Mesa Studio. Something is defenitely wrong; compared to the Studio, the Quad that came to me is muddy and edgy. And it seems to have less gain! I have trtied retubing it, but it was only worse. It came with JJs and they are at least fine, even cool. I can get some gain out ofmthe first channel and the seciond channel isn't gainy at all, it gives only crunch. Compared to the mesa studio in the Quad to get a high gain I need to turn the volume of the first stage widely. And it makes the sound so muddy. Besieds the hights in the Quad are not taht crispy, i can better say they are edgy, sound very sharp and when i turn the highs down the sound grows somewhat dull. I'm now really upset, because I spent a lot of money on this preamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FastRedPonyCar Posted January 28, 2008 Members Share Posted January 28, 2008 hm... not sure what the problem could be. I'm not familiar with the quad and it's controls. have you asked the guys at the boogie forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members separanets Posted January 28, 2008 Members Share Posted January 28, 2008 Not yet, I've been tweaking the Quad for the whole evening. I did find some interesting sounds already. I think channel one lead is the high gain channel. Channel two lead is similar to the studio's lead with the fat button on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members separanets Posted January 29, 2008 Members Share Posted January 29, 2008 All right, now I've tamed the Quad! It's as good as the Studio, but much more versatile. And - I don't know why - the Studio has more crisps. So it sounds a bit different from the Quad. The Quad is dark dark dark. May be it's the tubes? Should the JJ ECC83s sound darker, or? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jimosity Posted January 30, 2008 Members Share Posted January 30, 2008 +1 on the Egnater M4 Anyways; to really tame the Quad, when I had one - I would say it's almost a requirement to use a Parametric EQ with it to get the best tones.Good tubes and a parametric EQ brings the Quad to life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members separanets Posted January 30, 2008 Members Share Posted January 30, 2008 I wonder who have compared the studio and quad. Does the studio really sound crispier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FastRedPonyCar Posted January 30, 2008 Members Share Posted January 30, 2008 No idea... I know there have been C+ mods for the studio with reported good results. Different tubes can make quite a difference (as I heard with mine), my MXR EQ in the loop can make a world of difference as well. Worth noting is that my studio sounds fizzy and very harsh using the primary 2 outputs. I don't know if it's supposed to be this way but plugging into the recording outputs yields an incredibly smooth and liquid tone with still TONS of high end bite and heat to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members separanets Posted January 30, 2008 Members Share Posted January 30, 2008 In the owner's manual I read that I can use two modes at a time by pressing simultaniously two switches on the FU-2. I tried, but it wasn't successful, what was I doing wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 4nkam Posted January 31, 2008 Members Share Posted January 31, 2008 I've compared the two a few times and the threads might be somewhere in the amp forum. But yeah, the Studio sounds a bit "more" than the Quad. A bit more what...? Well, I can't quite put my finger on it. Both are really cool though. Not sure on the switching but it's probably something with that switcher itself. I used a cheapo DIY one at first and it was fine. Now I use a GCX to control the switching and it works ok too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members separanets Posted January 31, 2008 Members Share Posted January 31, 2008 I've compared the two a few times and the threads might be somewhere in the amp forum. But yeah, the Studio sounds a bit "more" than the Quad. A bit more what...? Well, I can't quite put my finger on it. Both are really cool though. Not sure on the switching but it's probably something with that switcher itself. I used a cheapo DIY one at first and it was fine. Now I use a GCX to control the switching and it works ok too. That's what they say Should you accidentally hit two switches at once and two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 4nkam Posted February 1, 2008 Members Share Posted February 1, 2008 Midi Matrix was Boogie's own switching system from years ago. No worries on that one. The mode/function jacks are just 1/4" jacks on the rear of the unit which control switching on/off of the functions. Pretty much any footswitch that uses a 1/4" cable from the switch to the amp should work. You could even just get a 1/4" plug and short out the connection with a piece of metal and that will turn the function on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members separanets Posted February 1, 2008 Members Share Posted February 1, 2008 Oh, thanks, do I understand it like this: I take a 1/4" jack and a switch button. On a press of the button it links up the ground and tip if the jack (plugged into a channel) and the channel is on. On the second press it disconnects the ground and tip and the chan is off. Right? If so I can make it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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