Help me. I have not a clue!

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I am throwing around the idea of getting a preamp.

I find that i always want a different sound and the amps I have are not really versitla on the fly type of amps.

I was thinking of either jmp-1 or ada mp-1

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I have an old Sunn Model T i would like to use and also a Laney AOR 50 for my power amp

Can one use a preamp in front of an amp or does always need an effects loop?

also can one use effects in front of a pre amp?

Like Fuzz types, wahs, vibes and so on?

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The Basic sounds I would like are Marshall Cleans ( John Frusciante'ish)

To Classic PLexi 'ish type sound Jim

to AC/DC Crunch

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I don't need super high gain/ but would like to goose the front end with a fuzz or overdrive. ( I like FUZZ!)

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anyway sorry for the ramble but any thoughts or suggestions would be great.

 

Thanks!

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C'mon....22 views and not one comment or chunk of wisdom?

[Jvod]

I like my Marshall JMP-1 and find it quite versatile on the fly via midi. The sounds you mentioned are very possible with the JMP-1. Of couse everything else in your chain colors the sound.

 

On to your questions:

1. Can one use a preamp in front of an amp or does always need an effects loop?

I would say no. Others here will be able to give you a definite answer. The effects loop is chained between the preamp & the power amp. So, one could plug a preamp into an amp's effects return and use it's power amp. (if there is and effects mix control, one could mix the two preamps or dial the mix to 100% and just use the out-board preamp).

 

2. also can one use effects in front of a pre amp? Like Fuzz types, wahs, vibes and so on?

Sure.

 

I don't have much wisdom, (that will probably end up in someone's sig) but here is a chunk to get the ball rolling.

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Thanks.

I am curious how Fuzz Face types (and others) interact with preamps such as the JMP-1

Does it interact as well as say a "normal" pre.

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So what you saying is also not recomended to plug a pre into the frt end of and amp. That it's best to use an effects loop?

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Thanks for the help!

anyone else care to add?

[HeimBrent]

Well, the JMP is a "normal" tube preamp.

 

About the front vs. effectsloop. Your amp have a preamp and a poweramp, normally with an effectsloop between them in the back. So; you want to use the poweramp-section of your amp, plugging your guitar into the input of the JMP and the output from the JMP into the effects return. That way you can use the poweramp-section.

 

The normal way however, is buying a rackmounted poweramp and plug your preamp into that.

 

And as far as plugging the JMP into the front of an amp; that would be plugging a preamp into a preamp. As far as I know, it won't do any harm, but the last preamp will dictate the sound, meaning that there will be little point in the JMP.

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- So using efects loop into just the power amp section is best. Cool.

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So how do dirt/fuzz pedals and wahs sound into preamps

like the ADA mp1 adn the JMP1?

Do they interact well?

[grrrunge]

 

So how do dirt/fuzz pedals and wahs sound into preamps like the ADA mp1 adn the JMP1? Do they interact well?

 

 

It should be exactly the same as any other type guitar tube-amp, as the principles in the audio path construction are the same too...

The only way to find out, is to try them out, and see how you like it.