Members Strange Posted December 27, 2005 Members Share Posted December 27, 2005 I can't get the Rude Solo Light LED to stop flashing on my Mackie 1604 VLZ. None of the channels are being soloed (no -20 are illuminated and all of the buttons are in the out position) yet the led still flashes. When I do Solo a channel the light flashes brighter and faster but I cannot get anything to register on the main meters. That is I cannot get anything at any time to register on the main meters at all. There is signal and all else seems to work fine...I can still mix...but i can't get the meters working or that damn solo led off. HELP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members where02190 Posted December 27, 2005 Members Share Posted December 27, 2005 Unless the light is defective, which is unlikely that it would be and stuck on, something, an aux, a subgroup, is solo'd. It's not just for channel solo, it's for all the solos. Possibly one solo is stuck but you can't tell. Go through and hit every solo button a couple times and make sure they are all (channels, subgroups, aux's, etc.) in the up position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted December 27, 2005 Members Share Posted December 27, 2005 The "rude solo light" operates off of a master oscillator, the LED is eithe on or off unless there is a problem with the input detector to the oscillator OR possible severe leakage with the B-logic switch contact on one of the channels. The fact that the LED gets brighter when you switch on one of the solo switches is very odd in that once the oscillator starts, it pretty much swings rail to rail... unless it's defective. This problem needs a service tech familiar with Mackie to diagnose properly IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Strange Posted December 27, 2005 Author Members Share Posted December 27, 2005 I figured as much. I have switched every solo option on the board and no dice. Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jake Cowan Posted October 13, 2015 Members Share Posted October 13, 2015 Hey, I know this is a long dead thread, but I just traded for a Mackie cr 1604 vlz. It works great except I'm having the same problem. The "Rude Solo Light" flashed constantly. It seems to get a bit brighter when I solo a channel. Also, I can't get the LED bar to light up to set the trim level on the channels. I think this is because the board thinks something else is going on when I go in solo mode. All buttons on the board are switched off so I am just confused. I'm hoping that the original poster on this thread will be able to tell me what came of the problem, or someone else can give me some ideas. The manual is good, but doesn't seem to have anything on this problem, and Google hasn't turned up much other that this thread. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted October 13, 2015 CMS Author Share Posted October 13, 2015 Open the case, and reseat every connector. Mackies of this vintage are notorious for problems with loose connectors. This may not fix the problem if the connector has really failed, but it might get the board working right again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cxhawk Posted October 13, 2015 Members Share Posted October 13, 2015 I had the exact the same problem, but here is the tip: make sure non of your aux master or group master are soloed... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shaster Posted October 13, 2015 Members Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) I had the exact the same problem, but here is the tip: make sure non of your aux master or group master are soloed... Chasing down an errant soloed aux is a good step, but the fact that he is getting no level when he solos a channel suggests there is more to it. The ribbon connectors on Mackie boards, especially of a certain era, were prone to problems. If the OP is certain there are no solo lights on, and he can't get signal from anything soloed, I would suggest he follow Craig's advice. I'm pretty much all thumbs, and even I can reseat a connector - however YMMV, so see a technician if this is above your pay grade. Just be prepared to pay... Edited October 13, 2015 by Shaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onelife Posted October 15, 2015 Members Share Posted October 15, 2015 Yes, it sounds like a flakey ground connection - which could very well be caused by a loose connector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jake Cowan Posted October 15, 2015 Members Share Posted October 15, 2015 Thanks for the advice. I've tried going through all the buttons and knobs a few times and nothing worked, it still flashes. I talked to the guy I traded off of and he said he had the same problem. The solo does work, but the light never stops flashing and the meter lights never move. I'm going to try Craig's suggestion and then I'll post the results. I'm still curious if anyone has successfully dealt with this exact problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted October 15, 2015 Members Share Posted October 15, 2015 I have a few times. The solution that works every single time is sending it to the dumpster. Fixes every other problem as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted October 16, 2015 CMS Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 I have a few times. The solution that works every single time is sending it to the dumpster. Fixes every other problem as well. Indeed, if a connector reseat doesn't fix this, don't even bother closing up the case. Save the screws for some other project..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jake Cowan Posted October 16, 2015 Members Share Posted October 16, 2015 I removed the board and cleaned it. There was a little tiny bit of corrosion in the area of the Rude Solo Light, which I did my best to clean off with alcohol and cotton swabs. Someone must have spilled something - but not much - it was very localized. Anyway, I cleaned it all up, reseated the connectors, and put it back together. Problem not solved, but at least I know. The board works fine, except you can't set unity level. I guess I will just use the -20 and the clipping lights on each channel as a rough indicator. Oh well, the board does 99% of what I need it for, it came with a sweet road case, and I traded it for gear I hadn't used in more than 10 years. I guess you can't win them all. Thanks for the help and advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pro Sound Guy Posted October 19, 2015 Members Share Posted October 19, 2015 There is a known issue/s with this model. Nine times out of ten taking it completely apart and reseating all the cables on the pcb connectors fixes the issues for a short time. I have one completely ripped apart in my basement shop and I have one I picked up from a guy for 25.00 cause he was sick of the issues with the 1604 VLZ. Believe me when I say that Ages suggestion of the dumpster is a good one. I always thought that doing a hard wire solder point to point instead of the cables might be the fix but there are other issues with this model as well. To really reseat all the connectors means you have to take the entire back panel apart and that is a LOT of screws and 1/4 inch nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wesg Posted October 19, 2015 Members Share Posted October 19, 2015 PSG, ever tried coating the connectors in DeOxit D5 before reassembly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pro Sound Guy Posted October 24, 2015 Members Share Posted October 24, 2015 Unfortunately the DeOxit is not the fix. I have no intention paying Mackie 125.00 for less then 10.00 worth of cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zych Posted March 7, 2020 Members Share Posted March 7, 2020 According to Mackie manual, it is a reminder to the operator that what you’re hearing in the control room is(are) the solo channel(s) you have selected. That’s why they named it “Rude Solo”, it is rude reminder, in case you forgot that you have soloed one or more channels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dookietwo Posted March 9, 2020 Members Share Posted March 9, 2020 On 3/6/2020 at 10:13 PM, Zych said: According to Mackie manual, it is a reminder to the operator that what you’re hearing in the control room is(are) the solo channel(s) you have selected. That’s why they named it “Rude Solo”, it is rude reminder, in case you forgot that you have soloed one or more channels. Nice but this post is 5 years old.. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hammaslamma Posted May 25, 2020 Members Share Posted May 25, 2020 On 3/9/2020 at 5:18 AM, Dookietwo said: Nice but this post is 5 years old.. Just saying. I'm here today reading this thread trying to solve the "Rude solo light" problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted June 4, 2020 Members Share Posted June 4, 2020 Well, did you learn anything from the previous posts? There is not enough value in this product to justify a proper (ie qualified) service technician's time. The cost of repair far exceeds the mixer's value. I have repaired these 20 years ago, they were tricky and not worth the time or the hassle. It requires a thorough understanding of how the cue/mute/display circuits work because you will be analyzing as you go. What's your experience level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mike Pastrana Posted June 20, 2020 Members Share Posted June 20, 2020 I have this other problem. My mackie 1604 vlz the rude solo is on but none of my channels were solos but the mute button led stills on although it was un mute. Always channels were affecting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted June 22, 2020 Members Share Posted June 22, 2020 On 6/20/2020 at 4:40 PM, Mike Pastrana said: I have this other problem. My mackie 1604 vlz the rude solo is on but none of my channels were solos but the mute button led stills on although it was un mute. Always channels were affecting it. Read my previous posts, your question has been answered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vindig Posted January 15, 2021 Members Share Posted January 15, 2021 why is the rude solo light on and how do i get it off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted January 19, 2021 Members Share Posted January 19, 2021 See my post above, which references my other post farther above. It's generally not an easy repair unless a solo switch is pushed down that you didn't notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Druzze Posted August 19, 2021 Members Share Posted August 19, 2021 I just fixed this issue. When I went to repair my 1642 I must have reversed the power connection to the main board. Switching this corrected the blinking Rude solo light and no audio. I hope this helps someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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