Members glepko Posted November 5, 2006 Members Share Posted November 5, 2006 I'm tired of tangled cables and tripping. Are there any preferred manufacturers for wireless bass/guitar transmission? Or maybe manufacturers to stay away from? I have no idea what to look for in these products and figured someone on here would know what's good and what's not! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tubedude Posted November 5, 2006 Members Share Posted November 5, 2006 Senheiser will have me as a customer. I have the Senheiser digital 1000. Even though it eats 9 volt batteries, it sounds outstanding. If it goes out I will definately go with Senheiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted November 5, 2006 Members Share Posted November 5, 2006 Beware if you need service on that product (originally designed by a company named X-Wire) as they have been discontinued AFAIK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ashivraj Posted November 5, 2006 Members Share Posted November 5, 2006 Shure is industry standard (or at least IMO anyway). Other contenders worth mentioning are Sennheiser and Audio Technica. Stay away from Nady and anything VHF. AS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BillESC Posted November 5, 2006 Members Share Posted November 5, 2006 The Audio Technica ATW 2000 and ATW 3000 series wireless systems are excellent in both fidelity and functionallity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dboomer Posted November 6, 2006 Members Share Posted November 6, 2006 Originally posted by ashivraj Stay away from Nady and anything VHF. Nothing wrong with VHF at all. Quality is quality ... VHF or UHF doesn't matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members madjack Posted November 6, 2006 Members Share Posted November 6, 2006 It may not be very popular on this forum, but I've been quite happy with my Samson Airline system for several years. I've used it for both guitar and bass. Once set up and the levels adjusted, I don't notice any significantly poorer quality sound than with a wire, and I have not had any problems with dropouts or noise. I also really like having one aaa battery last me 14 hours of usage time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mogwix Posted November 6, 2006 Members Share Posted November 6, 2006 I use an AKG WMS40 system I got new for $100. When I'm playing distorted guitar there's an audible change, it's slightly muddier than with a cable, but I play bass clean and I only use it live of course, so it's not noticable. I'm really happy with this system. Shure makes great systems, AKG makes good wireless stuff as well apparently, I don't see why they wouldn't. Seems most pros use Sennheiser systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members timmcallister Posted November 6, 2006 Members Share Posted November 6, 2006 Originally posted by madjack It may not be very popular on this forum, but I've been quite happy with my Samson Airline system for several years. +1 I've used an airline for 4+ years (50+ shows / year) without a single problem. And I get about 2 to 3 full nights (10-15 hours) with a single AA battery. I like the fact a bodypack is NOT required, and I like having the receiver as a floor stomp box, rather than a rack mount unit. Reliable, great form factor, cheap to buy, cheap to operate. Works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ashivraj Posted November 6, 2006 Members Share Posted November 6, 2006 Originally posted by dboomer Nothing wrong with VHF at all. Quality is quality ... VHF or UHF doesn't matter I don't have any factual reasoning to back it up, but I've used three different Shure wireless VHF units (3 different frequencies, but I always used only one at any given time), and they've always had that occasional 'hiss' when moving about. When I switched to a Shure UHF unit, the problem disappeared. I tried troubleshooting as much as I could - antenna placement, no obvious large metal objects in the vicinity, new batteries, different venues, same venue... couldn't solve it. BTW, I'm not implying that all Shure wireless products are the same high quality. I'm just saying I was using a known brand. Any tips? AS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dboomer Posted November 6, 2006 Members Share Posted November 6, 2006 Originally posted by Mogwix When I'm playing distorted guitar there's an audible change, it's slightly muddier than with a cable, Stands to reason ... you are trading a simple piece or wire with a complicated bunch of electronics whose job it is to replace that wire. Wireless always changes something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dboomer Posted November 6, 2006 Members Share Posted November 6, 2006 Originally posted by ashivraj I don't have any factual reasoning to back it up, but I've used three different Shure wireless VHF units That's because the units you used were of poor quality ... not because they were VHF. The trend is towards UHF because there are way more channels available. It's easier to find a empty slot and the channels are easily changed. Of course when the FTC finally decides where they are gonna put digital TV signals and the stations start loading them up, there are gonna be a bunch of UHF systems instantly reduced to being paperweights. You're gonna need to replace them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted November 6, 2006 Members Share Posted November 6, 2006 Originally posted by madjack It may not be very popular on this forum, but I've been quite happy with my Samson Airline system for several years. I've used it for both guitar and bass. Once set up and the levels adjusted, I don't notice any significantly poorer quality sound than with a wire, and I have not had any problems with dropouts or noise. I also really like having one aaa battery last me 14 hours of usage time. I love my airline. Very convenient, sounds great, extremely reliable and cheap to operate. I've never for a second thought of looking for anything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OffLimitsBand Posted November 6, 2006 Members Share Posted November 6, 2006 I purchased the Sennheiser EW172G2 system 4 months ago; used it 25+ gigs with no problems. I enjoy being able to scan for open frequency channels at each gig and the AA battery power is nice. Having a metal casing on the receiver and transmitter is a bit of sleep insurance I'm happy with also. I do alot of moving, jumping around and find myself 50 ft away from the receiver quite often with no drops at all. I would recommend this unit to anyone. My bass player uses the Shure PGX14 unit and is very happy with this unit as well with no problems. IMO, plan on spending a little extra cash on a quality model; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tremendo Posted November 6, 2006 Members Share Posted November 6, 2006 I've got a couple AKG WMS80 systems. Never a drop out (unless I go more than 80' or so) and has worked very well. HOWEVER, they do suck out a bit of the tone on my guitar. Enough that I notice it, but for the overall band sound, it's not detrimental. For my headet mic, sounds fine. If I were to get a new one today, I'd probably go Sennheiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted November 6, 2006 Members Share Posted November 6, 2006 Sometimes, VHF is a better solution as it's generally more forgiving in RF reflective rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ashivraj Posted November 6, 2006 Members Share Posted November 6, 2006 Originally posted by dboomer That's because the units you used were of poor quality ... not because they were VHF. Fair enough, I stand corrected... so is there any particular reason UHF is generally more expensive than VHF? Or have I got that confused too? The trend is towards UHF because there are way more channels available. It's easier to find a empty slot and the channels are easily changed. Of course when the FTC finally decides where they are gonna put digital TV signals and the stations start loading them up, there are gonna be a bunch of UHF systems instantly reduced to being paperweights. You're gonna need to replace them all. What's the alternative? Go back down to VHF? Or are they going to come out with wireless audio systems at frequencies higher than UHF? AS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members B-Roll Posted November 14, 2006 Members Share Posted November 14, 2006 I'm looking to get a wireless system but I have 2 guitars. I've looked to try to see where I would be able to order just an extra transmitter but haven't had any luck. I realize I can use it with straplocks anad just change the strap quickly without having to have another transmitter but I'd rather have 1 transmitter for each of my guitars. Any help is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BillESC Posted November 14, 2006 Members Share Posted November 14, 2006 Extra transmitters are available for most wireless receivers. Keep in mind ONLY the one you are using can be on, the other will have to be off to avoid any possible interferrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members madjack Posted November 14, 2006 Members Share Posted November 14, 2006 Or you could use an Airline or Guitar Bug and just change between guitars, just like with a cable. I use 5 different guitars on stage every gig and have no problems with the airline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tremendo Posted November 14, 2006 Members Share Posted November 14, 2006 Originally posted by madjack I use 5 different guitars on stage every gig and have no problems with the airline. Damn! I've been putting 2 on stage, but almost always only use 1 all night. If you've got 5 and switch around fine, the airline/bug must work well for your needs. Seems like that would be about the easiest route, being a small unit to switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ed Dixon Posted November 14, 2006 Members Share Posted November 14, 2006 I have used both UHF and VHF instrument wireless systems. With the ones I had, the UHF worked better and were quieter (less hiss). I have used both Samson VHF and UHF as well as Shure UHF. I liked the Shure UHF the best. VHF are usually lower in cost and Shure cost more than Samson. If you can afford it, the Shure is the better of the two. Since going to a Line Variax guitar with VDI cable, I no longer use instrument wireless. However I still have 2 Samson UHF mics and two Shure UHF mics. All work well, but the Shure sound better. It Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members madjack Posted November 15, 2006 Members Share Posted November 15, 2006 Originally posted by tremendo Damn! I've been putting 2 on stage, but almost always only use 1 all night. If you've got 5 and switch around fine, the airline/bug must work well for your needs. Seems like that would be about the easiest route, being a small unit to switch. I have an acoustic; a second acoustic tuned down a step for a couple of songs; a Ricky 12; an sg special; and a tele; any of which can run through any of three amps; a Mark IV Boogie, an Ibanez acoustic amp, and a Leslie 147 RV. Gives me a lot of versatility. I like my airline transmitter. I also used to play bass, and used the airline for that, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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