Members frankiefeedback Posted June 22, 2009 Members Share Posted June 22, 2009 Went to a show in a park today and saw a few interesting things! #1) If it looks good then it is. Shiney new stuff always sounds better. That silver 500 channel Beringer mixer has to be better then a 16 channel A&H. #2) It's OK to use snake returns as speaker cables if you dont want your amps way over there on the stage. #3) Crossovers are for pussys. Just run your "real" speaker cables from your returns on your snake to your tops and just jump right to your subs. #4) If the stage is WET and it's raining then you should NOT wear shoes while performing. #5) It's OK to mix FOH speakers, the more the merrier. #6) You can run 6 monitors from 1 Yamaha powered head. Yamaha makes good {censored}. #7) Those funny cables with the 3 prongs coming from the snake are a pain in the ass. Do what ever it takes to get them converted to 1/4" guitar cables. Seriously, the ONLY thing that kept making sound were the American Audio powered speakers. Just goes to show how idiot proof powered speakers are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted June 22, 2009 Members Share Posted June 22, 2009 ugh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tado921 Posted June 22, 2009 Members Share Posted June 22, 2009 LOL...nice. I'll add: #8) The more gear you have, the better you will sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frankiefeedback Posted June 22, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 22, 2009 ugh... ^^^lmao^^^ Andy reading that is like locking a claustrophobe in a phone booth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members W. M. Hellinger Posted June 22, 2009 Members Share Posted June 22, 2009 Went to a show in a park today and saw a few interesting things! Lemme guess: #8) 16ga. orange AC extension cord is fine... besides, that's what all the power conditioners are for... to ensure clean juice, but 10ga. speaker cable is the minimum gauge suitable to get good sound. #9) Amp racks and patch panels are for pussies, just pile the amps up somewhere, strip-off the insulation on the speaker cables and wire up to the banana posts. #10) More FX devices are better... especially sub harmonic synthesizers, gates, compressors, expanders, harmonizers and the like. If it has lots of lights, knobs, and switches, it must be somehow patched into the audio chain. #11) Starting time is only a suggestion, but being on-time is really a social faux pas... it's much better to start tastefully late... because the later you start, the better it is due to the anticipation. #12) Casual dress can be defined a lot of ways. Looking (and smelling) like you just got out of sleeping in a dumpster after a 3 day running drunk is casual chic. #13) Feedback proves the system is turned up as far as it will go and you're delivering all the sound the customer is paying for. It's necessary to remind the audience and customer that it's LOUD via emissions of runaway feedback every 5 - 10 minutes. #14) Cargo vehicles are for pussies. You can haul all the gear needed in a daily commuter car (although admittedly, it might take a lot of trips). #15) RUNNING back and forth from the FOH mix position to the stage with a blind paniced/don't get in my way look on your face shows everyone you've got it under control. #16) You can charge a whole lot less than those established fat-cat companies to do a show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted June 22, 2009 Members Share Posted June 22, 2009 stop it Mark... you will go blind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members srp72ee Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 #17) The guy running the mixer has to be a sound engineer. That's his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shaster Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 #18) EQ's should have a curve like a roller coaster or better yet, like a hospital monitor - after all flatlining is bad right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted June 24, 2009 CMS Author Share Posted June 24, 2009 #19) Gaffer tape is for pussies. Duct tape is better. If it wasn't better it wouldn't be so hard to remove, and wouldn't leave all that sticky stuff that attracts dirt and bar munge. Dirty gear shows you're serious and busy. #20) Pro's wrap cables around their wrist and elbow. The tighter the better. If your orange extension cords don't look like they were snared in a trawler's lines, you're a {censored}. #21) Grounded plugs are for pussies. First thing you do with new gear is snap off that stupid round lug. I don't know why my plugs don't go in both ways like my old stuff, but if I push hard enough, some of 'em do. That's the only way to stop a hum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bryan316 Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 You know what? Next time I see a hack-job gig, I'ma go to the sound guy and ask, "So are you the sound engineer? Yeah? Engineer? Really? Okay, what university did you get your engineering degree from?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twostone Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 Best mixing position is from the stage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slipslick Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 If you go ahead and snap off that stupid round lug, then go ahead and be a real pro. File down that wide prong so you can plug it in either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frankiefeedback Posted June 24, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 OMG, I didn't know ALL you guys were there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrJoshua Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 Grounding is for drunk pilots and wimps. Real men know where their third prong is, and it ain't on the end of no orange extension cord! Speakers sound their best when you use the largest amps possible. 2,000 watts into a 250-watt cabinet just means you're providing lots of extra headroom and avoiding that nasty underpowering that kills speakers. Don't worry - there's a grille on the front of the speaker cab to prevent the driver from leaving the cab. Thousands of watts of power, electrical lines everywhere, cables lying every which way across the stage ... there's nothing here that can hurt anyone. Caution is for weenies. If you drill a couple of holes in the tops of your speaker cabinets you can hang them from the ceiling with some rope. This looks cool and sounds even better. What could possibly go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members patman0322 Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 ...If you drill a couple of holes in the tops of your speaker cabinets you can hang them from the ceiling with some rope. This looks cool and sounds even better. What could possibly go wrong? Why drill holes when you can just loop some old swingset chain through the plastic handles on the sides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrJoshua Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 Why drill holes when you can just loop some old swingset chain through the plastic handles on the sides? This is a good idea, and I'm embarassed that I didn't think of it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J Kylez Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 Why drill holes when you can just loop some old swingset chain through the plastic handles on the sides? Ohhhh you have no idea how many times I have seen this particular disaster waiting to happen in action. Let's upgrade up it to metal handles where you're just waiting for the handle to rip right out of the cabinet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pro1-54 Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 You don't need an insert to patch comps or gates - just get some 1/4" to xlr adaptors, plug the mic line into the comp/gate (preferrably Behringer), set the threshold back to -40 and crank the output. See- it works ... Oh, that hiss- thats the guitar players crappy pedal setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Real MC Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 #22) yes you can plug the speaker output of your guitar amp into your mixing board channel. If that channel stops working, try the next one. If that channel stops working... (believe it or not, a tech shop actually had a mixer in for repair from a guitar player who did this exact same thing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Real MC Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 Another good tech repair story: A customer brought in a stereo receiver complaining that one side didn't work. The tech went over it and found nothing wrong. It was given back to the customer who soon returned with the same complaint. Again, nothing wrong. So the tech asked the customer to come down and demonstrate how he set up the stereo. The customer started turning knobs. "Well I like lots of bass, lots of treble, lots of balance..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 Real engineers use 480 volt distro... (disclaimer, we do have a 480v 3ph to 120/208v distro unit xfmr but this is NOT for a normal company... grounding is done specially with this type of setup) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dogoth Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 Best mixing position is from the stage Defined as "Safest mixing position is from the stage" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Al Poulin Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 Another good tech repair story: A customer brought in a stereo receiver complaining that one side didn't work. The tech went over it and found nothing wrong. It was given back to the customer who soon returned with the same complaint. Again, nothing wrong. So the tech asked the customer to come down and demonstrate how he set up the stereo. The customer started turning knobs. "Well I like lots of bass, lots of treble, lots of balance..." OMG is that ever funny. :lol: Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BigMac5 Posted June 28, 2009 Members Share Posted June 28, 2009 Bass cabs can be used as Subwoofers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coaster Posted June 28, 2009 Members Share Posted June 28, 2009 if i burly talk into the mic the soundguy will turn it up and 'fix it' to sound great. never mind the fact that he can hear audience members out in the crowd through the mic on stage louder than me, heck that thing scares me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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