Members tlbonehead Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Cerwinski-Lab-CS-36B-Folded-Horn-Subwoofer-System_W0QQitemZ260510666366 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Square Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 With a sensitivity of 138db (1W/1W) In reality, it looks like a cheap ripoff of a Cerwin Vega "Earthquake" e-horn, and they don't even know how to write a spec sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted November 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 I'm thinking its also close enough for some litigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rotebass Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 Why would anyone even want to copy those bins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dangordan Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 It's a new model line from Berhinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted November 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 Why would anyone even want to copy those bins?Ask about 1000 other companies over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 This is interesting... the name of the Cerwin Vega founder was Gene Cerwinski, I wonder if by some chance this is Gene's son or relative cashingin on the legacy product of a company that may or may not own any exclusive rights to these designs. They are old enough to be long out of protection. Gene would have to be in his 90's if he's still alive, I met him many years ago and he was an odd, eccentric, but brilliant old man who found his niche. He came out of the military supply chain, and designed radar units for Bendix IIRC back in the 50's. He was also involved with the original Acoustic amp company (Acoustic Control?) http://www.cerwinskilab.com/#/products/ This goes back a long time, my memory may be a bit fuzzy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted November 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 Interesting stuff, Andy. I thought you had a pretty good history of them somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 Interesting stuff, Andy. I thought you had a pretty good history of them somehow. I did warranty service and ran a service center for a chain of stores that sold Cerwin Vega from late 70's into the early 80's. I also worked a few trade shows for their CA rep firm. I was one of only a few that serviced their big solid state amps of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rotebass Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 Ask about 1000 other companies over the years. I do, every time I hear a set of them farting away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dookietwo Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 Wow! I found my next sub. 134db's 1w1m! http://www.cerwinskilab.com/#/products/bass-systems/cls-218 edit: link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted November 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 I do, every time I hear a set of them farting away well, that's user error then. They are capable of sounding quite good, especially in multiples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dedmeet Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 By my math, that sub would be capable of peak volumes in excess of 154dB! Yeah, sure it is. Once you get past 150dB, you are seriously talking about pressure levels akin to large detonations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gregidon Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 By my math, that sub would be capable of peak volumes in excess of 154dB! Yeah, sure it is. Once you get past 150dB, you are seriously talking about pressure levels akin to large detonations. 150? I calculate 171dB peak (138+10*log(2000) = 171). That's actually weapon's grade right there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Chinese Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 They have them at Astro Sound here in L.A., which is a DJ oriented Sound/Lighting house. The word I got is that as Andy said there's some original peeps involved with them, but to be honest I was kind of dismissive beause I wasn't looking for that kind of enclosure... The tech cranked it up and it did blow some serious air tho. THe place is small so I can't give any better review than that. Todd A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 well, that's user error then. They are capable of sounding quite good, especially in multiples. There are a lot out there with seriously abused drivers that are pretty ratty. They originally used anodized aluminum bobbins that would deform under heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted November 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 There are a lot out there with seriously abused drivers that are pretty ratty. They originally used anodized aluminum bobbins that would deform under heat.And heat is definitely going to be an issue with a driver couped up in a small space like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members abzurd Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 About the company - Co-owners name is Steve Cerwinski. Can't figure out if it's Gene's son or not, but, from the pic on the website, his age appears to make it plausible. For what it's worth - Here's a thread on the history of CV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unalaska Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 Thier product page has some strange stuff, like a dual 12+1" line array and a single bullet tweeter cab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 Thier product page has some strange stuff, like a dual 12+1" line array and a single bullet tweeter cab. Yes, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dookietwo Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 Thier product page has some strange stuff, like a dual 12+1" line array and a single bullet tweeter cab. I agree. They need a much better web designer/proof reader. The bullet tweeter freq range is listed from 2000 to 2500 hz. Should read 2000 to 25000 khz. Which is asking allot..2000 watt max input? Maybe 500 rms with supplied crossover capacitor... Maybe. I went to click to downloading the pdf manual to the 2-12+1 line array and all I could get was a google link. All the other products were the same way. Not allot of trust in a company that can't get their web site in line. Dookietwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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