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  • what the flock????? Is this for real?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Cerwinski-Lab-CS-36B-Folded-Horn-Subwoofer-System_W0QQitemZ260510666366
    tlbonehead@yahoo.com
    www.myspace.com/tbone_tommy
    -For Sale:
    -set of GFS Dream 90s- gold and black pearl- $40 shipped in the cont. US
    -(2) Celestion G12M-70 16 ohm guitar speakers in good condition $40 ea. + shipping.
    - Vox VT15 Valvetronix very clean - $85 + shipping
    - Hughes Kettner Edition Tube 20 (the early Voxy sounding one) Sounds & looks good. $250 + shipping. SOLD
    - Crate Palomino V8 - 10" Celestion - Very clean - on Ebay (sold)

  • #2
    With a sensitivity of 138db (1W/1W)<-- Whatever "(1W/1W)" is, I think Tom Danley better start looking for a new line of work!

    In reality, it looks like a cheap ripoff of a Cerwin Vega "Earthquake" e-horn, and they don't even know how to write a spec sheet.

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    • #3
      I'm thinking its also close enough for some litigation.
      tlbonehead@yahoo.com
      www.myspace.com/tbone_tommy
      -For Sale:
      -set of GFS Dream 90s- gold and black pearl- $40 shipped in the cont. US
      -(2) Celestion G12M-70 16 ohm guitar speakers in good condition $40 ea. + shipping.
      - Vox VT15 Valvetronix very clean - $85 + shipping
      - Hughes Kettner Edition Tube 20 (the early Voxy sounding one) Sounds & looks good. $250 + shipping. SOLD
      - Crate Palomino V8 - 10" Celestion - Very clean - on Ebay (sold)

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      • #4
        Why would anyone even want to copy those bins?

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        • #5
          It's a new model line from Berhinger.

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          • #6
            Why would anyone even want to copy those bins?
            Ask about 1000 other companies over the years.
            tlbonehead@yahoo.com
            www.myspace.com/tbone_tommy
            -For Sale:
            -set of GFS Dream 90s- gold and black pearl- $40 shipped in the cont. US
            -(2) Celestion G12M-70 16 ohm guitar speakers in good condition $40 ea. + shipping.
            - Vox VT15 Valvetronix very clean - $85 + shipping
            - Hughes Kettner Edition Tube 20 (the early Voxy sounding one) Sounds & looks good. $250 + shipping. SOLD
            - Crate Palomino V8 - 10" Celestion - Very clean - on Ebay (sold)

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            • #7
              This is interesting... the name of the Cerwin Vega founder was Gene Cerwinski, I wonder if by some chance this is Gene's son or relative cashingin on the legacy product of a company that may or may not own any exclusive rights to these designs. They are old enough to be long out of protection.

              Gene would have to be in his 90's if he's still alive, I met him many years ago and he was an odd, eccentric, but brilliant old man who found his niche. He came out of the military supply chain, and designed radar units for Bendix IIRC back in the 50's. He was also involved with the original Acoustic amp company (Acoustic Control?)

              http://www.cerwinskilab.com/#/products/

              This goes back a long time, my memory may be a bit fuzzy.
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              • #8
                Interesting stuff, Andy. I thought you had a pretty good history of them somehow.
                tlbonehead@yahoo.com
                www.myspace.com/tbone_tommy
                -For Sale:
                -set of GFS Dream 90s- gold and black pearl- $40 shipped in the cont. US
                -(2) Celestion G12M-70 16 ohm guitar speakers in good condition $40 ea. + shipping.
                - Vox VT15 Valvetronix very clean - $85 + shipping
                - Hughes Kettner Edition Tube 20 (the early Voxy sounding one) Sounds & looks good. $250 + shipping. SOLD
                - Crate Palomino V8 - 10" Celestion - Very clean - on Ebay (sold)

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                • #9
                  Interesting stuff, Andy. I thought you had a pretty good history of them somehow.


                  I did warranty service and ran a service center for a chain of stores that sold Cerwin Vega from late 70's into the early 80's. I also worked a few trade shows for their CA rep firm. I was one of only a few that serviced their big solid state amps of the time.
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                  Former product development engineer: Genz Benz, a KMC Music/FMIC/JAM Industries Company, continuing factory level product support and service for Genz Benz

                  Currently product development engineer: Mesa Boogie

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                  • #10
                    Ask about 1000 other companies over the years.


                    I do, every time I hear a set of them farting away

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                    • #11
                      Wow! I found my next sub. 134db's 1w1m!

                      http://www.cerwinskilab.com/#/products/bass-systems/cls-218

                      edit: link

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                      • #12
                        I do, every time I hear a set of them farting away
                        well, that's user error then. They are capable of sounding quite good, especially in multiples.
                        tlbonehead@yahoo.com
                        www.myspace.com/tbone_tommy
                        -For Sale:
                        -set of GFS Dream 90s- gold and black pearl- $40 shipped in the cont. US
                        -(2) Celestion G12M-70 16 ohm guitar speakers in good condition $40 ea. + shipping.
                        - Vox VT15 Valvetronix very clean - $85 + shipping
                        - Hughes Kettner Edition Tube 20 (the early Voxy sounding one) Sounds & looks good. $250 + shipping. SOLD
                        - Crate Palomino V8 - 10" Celestion - Very clean - on Ebay (sold)

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                        • #13
                          By my math, that sub would be capable of peak volumes in excess of 154dB! Yeah, sure it is.

                          Once you get past 150dB, you are seriously talking about pressure levels akin to large detonations.
                          Chief fader ape, wire monkey, mic macaque, and speaker chimp.

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                          • #14
                            By my math, that sub would be capable of peak volumes in excess of 154dB! Yeah, sure it is.

                            Once you get past 150dB, you are seriously talking about pressure levels akin to large detonations.


                            150? I calculate 171dB peak (138+10*log(2000) = 171). That's actually weapon's grade right there



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                            • #15
                              They have them at Astro Sound here in L.A., which is a DJ oriented Sound/Lighting house. The word I got is that as Andy said there's some original peeps involved with them, but to be honest I was kind of dismissive beause I wasn't looking for that kind of enclosure... The tech cranked it up and it did blow some serious air tho. THe place is small so I can't give any better review than that.

                              Todd A.
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