Members Bolth_Mannn Posted February 26, 2015 Members Share Posted February 26, 2015 With the modern age of using samples for electronic music integrated with rock music in live settings, theres really no reason a bass guitar can't be mixed into the sample as well, is there? You can get a full live sound through a drummer, guitarist, pianist and a laptop... Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shaster Posted February 26, 2015 Members Share Posted February 26, 2015 Or you could ditch the laptop and get a bass player. Or you could ditch the band and get a DJ. Or you could ditch the DJ and get a sports bar. Wait, what was the question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wesg Posted February 26, 2015 Members Share Posted February 26, 2015 I don't know why you would bother will all that crap. Bass players, drummers, guitars, pianists, stage monitors, mixers, EQs, compressors, effects units... It seems to me you could get a good, full sound by simply plugging a laptop into the FOH amps and be done with it. Well, maybe add some lights and a fog machine. Wes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members abzurd Posted February 26, 2015 Members Share Posted February 26, 2015 trollin' trollin' trollin'no bass player he's extollin'keep them posts a flowin’, deride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted February 26, 2015 CMS Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 Well, okay, here's a serious answer (for the rest of us, I suspect); there's a 'thing' that two good musicians, in this case drum and bass, will do to lock in and play tight. I've never heard this when either the drummer or the bassist were playing against tracks. Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members modulusman Posted February 26, 2015 Members Share Posted February 26, 2015 Bands without bass players suck donkey balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rangerkarlos Posted February 26, 2015 Members Share Posted February 26, 2015 Let's see your sample pick up extended verses and chorus when the milfs fill the dance floor. Oh wait, they won't bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cappttenron Posted February 26, 2015 Members Share Posted February 26, 2015 I have seen some guys do amazing things with loopers but that is not the same as just using tracks. I'm not a fan of drum machines or bass tracks except for practicing. I have seen lots of bands have the keyboardist play the bass lines and sometimes that works pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members madjack Posted February 26, 2015 Members Share Posted February 26, 2015 Do you need a bass player live? 02-25-2015, 09:49 PMNot if you are Ray Manzarek. (Although he often used one live.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Audiopile Posted February 26, 2015 Members Share Posted February 26, 2015 No bass player? Well then: who'd supply the sound & light rig, and the means to haul the gear, and store it, and fix it, and set-up and tear down, and check the power situation, and supply batteries, gaff tape, and all that sort of stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members abzurd Posted February 26, 2015 Members Share Posted February 26, 2015 No bass player? Well then: who'd supply the sound & light rig, and the means to haul the gear, and store it, and fix it, and set-up and tear down, and check the power situation, and supply batteries, gaff tape, and all that sort of stuff? Why the singer of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted February 26, 2015 Members Share Posted February 26, 2015 I always though that a big part of the enjoyment of playing music was playing with other players rather than playing with machines. Call me old fashoned I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shaster Posted February 26, 2015 Members Share Posted February 26, 2015 trollin' trollin' trollin' no bass player he's extollin' keep them posts a flowin’, deride Extollin' - that's like rhyming "orange". Nice one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators MarkGifford-1 Posted February 27, 2015 Moderators Share Posted February 27, 2015 Well, okay, here's a serious answer (for the rest of us, I suspect); there's a 'thing' that two good musicians, in this case drum and bass, will do to lock in and play tight. I've never heard this when either the drummer or the bassist were playing against tracks. Never. I'm not a big fan of tracks, and couldn't imagine playing w/o a bass player, but there is this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_SWP3qI7Rg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted February 27, 2015 CMS Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Haha! Note the look John gives Keith at 5:30....they definitely went in two different directions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted February 27, 2015 CMS Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 BTW, seeing the stacks, I can almost smell the dust burning off the tubes on those Hiwatts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DanCostello Posted February 27, 2015 Members Share Posted February 27, 2015 Why the singer of course lol, good luck with that. (S)He's got enough to deal with having to provide the tamborine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members abzurd Posted February 28, 2015 Members Share Posted February 28, 2015 lol, good luck with that. (S)He's got enough to deal with having to provide the tamborine. Agreed. I'm an anomaly ... lead singer ... booking, marketing, website, travel arrangements, transportation, sound, lights. 14 years, 700+ shows and counting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dogoth Posted February 28, 2015 Members Share Posted February 28, 2015 I always though that a big part of the enjoyment of playing music was playing with other players rather than playing with machines. Call me old fashoned I guess OK. You're old fashioned". That doesn't necessarily mean "bad" though. Music is (hopefully) a performing art. This doesn't include reproductions of a single performance done in a studio. It's a collaborative effort (even the sound & light guys sometimes get a tiny piece of the action). The more trax & recorded music you have as part of your presentation, the more you are becoming a lithograph hanger in an art gallery. On the pragmatic side, obviously not everyone can afford to travel with an orchestra so sometimes tracks can be useful (but still detracting). Go see a REAL performance (Broadway for instance) and even with all of it's human flaws it is still a far more fulfilling musical experience. Are we becoming a world of mediocrity? Just some thoughtful musings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bugzie Posted February 28, 2015 Members Share Posted February 28, 2015 Hell any good keyboard workstation could replace the entire band..........but why would anyone want to? Anyone capable of doing that is doing jingles for commercials from home and making a good living at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trevcda Posted February 28, 2015 Members Share Posted February 28, 2015 lol, good luck with that. (S)He's got enough to deal with having to provide the tamborine. Only because I keep hiding them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mshifflett Posted February 28, 2015 Members Share Posted February 28, 2015 Well, okay, here's a serious answer (for the rest of us, I suspect); there's a 'thing' that two good musicians, in this case drum and bass, will do to lock in and play tight. I've never heard this when either the drummer or the bassist were playing against tracks. Never. Exactly! Besides, there is always something special about a group of people coming together to make music without the crutch of using tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Audiopile Posted March 1, 2015 Members Share Posted March 1, 2015 Agreed. I'm an anomaly I've wondered why a seeming preponderance of gear folks in bands happen to be the band's bassist? In my case it was simply my realization that a non singing mediocre bass player is much more in-demand if said bass player (me) owns a decent sound & light rig, and the means to haul and store the gear, and the chops to make it reliably function well. Well that... plus I was the one who seemed to have time on my hands during set-up and tear-down... like a minute or two to deal with my bass stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trevcda Posted March 1, 2015 Members Share Posted March 1, 2015 I don't know. I've been played guitar, keys and sang and now currently consider myself primarily a bassist that sings. It always came down my impatients and that I could only stand around so long, knowing I could coax better results of their mismatched equipment than they were getting. Eventually I built up a number of systems that made me the go to guy to do it all. And I keep swearing up and down every time I work with a new group, I'm going to keep my mouth shut and just play and sing. You can guess how well that works out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Drummer44 Posted March 1, 2015 Members Share Posted March 1, 2015 I always though that a big part of the enjoyment of playing music was playing with other players rather than playing with machines. Call me old fashoned I guess Heh... me, too. I can play samples and tracks and loops and so forth through consumer electronics equipment, and read a book while it makes noise. -D44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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