Members Tomm Williams Posted May 7, 2014 Members Share Posted May 7, 2014 Finshing up several advances for events going from now to this fall. Received an input list/stage plot from one group who offered some advice I'd never seen before. Along with the basic info, they offer the advice that 400hz is the magic frequency for feedback problems !! I didn't realize they knew my system and how I operate it so well !!!!! It probably stems from their own system usage but still gave me a little grin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted May 7, 2014 Members Share Posted May 7, 2014 I wish they would include information like "lead guitarist is a dick, ignore his insults" which is probably more useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomm Williams Posted May 7, 2014 Author Members Share Posted May 7, 2014 I wish they would include information like "lead guitarist is a dick' date=' ignore his insults" which is probably more useful.[/quote'] That is hilarious !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members abzurd Posted May 7, 2014 Members Share Posted May 7, 2014 Well at least their heart was in the right place and they were trying to be helpful. We don't have production provided much, but our sheet has EQ tips for a few things like the headset mic the drummer uses. It's junk, but he doesn't sing enough to justify better. I actually had the sound guy at the casino come up and thank me. Then again, he said I was the first guy to ever give him a set list in the year he'd been there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shaster Posted May 8, 2014 Members Share Posted May 8, 2014 Finshing up several advances for events going from now to this fall. Received an input list/stage plot from one group who offered some advice I'd never seen before. Along with the basic info, they offer the advice that 400hz is the magic frequency for feedback problems !! I didn't realize they knew my system and how I operate it so well !!!!! It probably stems from their own system usage but still gave me a little grin. So I guess if 8k is a problem we should just turn down 400 hz... and presto magic, no 8k problems. Maybe they're running the Yorkville Elite line which actually can have 400hz issues. Or maybe they're using imitation 58's. Still and all, if they walk by your rack and see 400 hz flat, they'll probably start "hearing" feedback. Better get a dummy graph just in case I once had some BG singers clucking away, because they could see that their faders were below the lead singer's. I wound up reducing their trim (which they knew nothing about) and put their faders the same as the lead singers. All of a sudden they could hear themselves better, even though they were the same volume. Especially when I could point to their monitor send and say "see your volume is louder than the lead singers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members loco_p_man Posted May 8, 2014 Members Share Posted May 8, 2014 Well at least their heart was in the right place and they were trying to be helpful. We don't have production provided much' date=' but our sheet has EQ tips for a few things like the headset mic the drummer uses. It's junk, but he doesn't sing enough to justify better. I actually had the sound guy at the casino come up and thank me. Then again, he said I was the first guy to ever give him a set list in the year he'd been there.[/quote'] What information do you provide for the sound man on your set list ? Asking because we are playing at a much bigger venue than we have been used to and I would like to help the engineer as much as possible. How can we best help him (or her) to help us ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted May 8, 2014 CMS Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 Well, since 400 is a composite number it only stands to reason that would hold special powers across the frequency spectrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 6Imzadi Posted May 14, 2014 Members Share Posted May 14, 2014 What information do you provide for the sound man on your set list ? Asking because we are playing at a much bigger venue than we have been used to and I would like to help the engineer as much as possible. How can we best help him (or her) to help us ? Thanks What I appreciate from bands is: A rough drawing of the layout of their band members and instruments relative to the stage. On this drawing, I like to see which of them need a monitor and as a bonus, what channels they want in those monitors. Also on there a little icon indicating where a power plug is needed. ie, outlet next to the lead guitar pedalboard. Of course, who gets a mic for vocals, who needs a direct box, and configuration of drums or a count of drum inputs. I have also seen a bit of a spreadsheet stating what mic type for inputs and even sometimes how they like their effects to be presented to the audience. YOu might be able to come up with some more if your circumstance has not been covered by the above. ie, horns, etc. Oh, and all this sent to them at a minimum of a week in advance. Also bring a copy to the show the day of. So, make it e-mailable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members witesol Posted May 14, 2014 Members Share Posted May 14, 2014 of course it's 400hz. duh. Dale yup!. Show me amps, players, monitors, stage power and DI. show me if IEM is used at that position. I dont need a song list with delay ms settings. I'm familiar with Mustang Sally and can tap it in! Sometimes the bands will give detailed song lists with all kinds of information, color coding, who's playing the solo, etc. And they list the bandmember names; "fred is singing lead, bobby doing mid harmony, Joe is doing high harmony" On festival gigs just put "guitar player lead vocal" "Drummer vocal" etc.. I don't want to learn your names! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pro Sound Guy Posted May 14, 2014 Members Share Posted May 14, 2014 Most of the time I will look the band up on Youtube live to see what they are all about.I will do a show for these guys next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members witesol Posted May 14, 2014 Members Share Posted May 14, 2014 fun band. I love horn bands. anytime you can get away with a 9 minute intro that has 3 chords or less, you go with yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FormerlyBassred Posted May 15, 2014 Members Share Posted May 15, 2014 I have the 'block diagram' that shows each position at front of stage and each position at backline, and what is needed there. I include the names of the band members on the plot, because 'hey guitar player' gets really old when there are two in the band. Our input list is complete, but I don't have a monitor sheet. I used to, but found that we always had to work on dialing the mixes in, so even the 'starting point' it gave us was not all that helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FormerlyBassred Posted May 15, 2014 Members Share Posted May 15, 2014 I have the 'block diagram' that shows each position at front of stage and each position at backline, and what is needed there. I include the names of the band members on the plot, because 'hey guitar player' gets really old when there are two in the band. Our input list is complete, but I don't have a monitor sheet. I used to, but found that we always had to work on dialing the mixes in, so even the 'starting point' it gave us was not all that helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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