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  • Quote Originally Posted by kbeaumont
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    With only 10 fingers and 61 keys why would this be important? I pre-ordered mine and was one of the first to receive it.

    I have had the sequencer doing some pretty wild stuff with multiple layers, using the drawbar as the solo voice and have not noticed any dropped notes.




    You probably won't notice dropped notes. The DPM-3 referenced at the beginning of the review had 16 voices IIRC, and it didn't get in the way much.



    The reason why "more voices is better" is because you can have worse-case situations, like a piano or pad patch with a really long release on each note. So if you play 10 notes with a long release and then another 10, now you have 20 voices sounding at once.



    Most voice-stealing algorithms are done "intelligently," like deleting only those voices almost at the end of the decay, or a combination of level and which was played first. This is why with most keyboards, you don't notice notes dropping out, even if they do.
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    • It makes sense with most PCM sounds, especially playing to a midi file. As for drawbar organ most advertise as 'full polyphony' which I assume means 61 for 61 keys etc.

      The Nord Electro 3 73 has polyphony of 40 - 60. The only time I ever had an issue that was noticeable was a Yamaha MM8 with 32 note polyphony it was fairly easy to drop notes doing arpeggio runs down the keyboard with the sustain pedal engaged.

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      • Ahh....the DPM 3......Most underrated box of awesome ever, with the possible exception of the SX/SP/PC1600 combo.
        Good deals with - Yarbicus, CBH5150, BozzofAngels, Alvin Wilson, Harris Quinn

        Oh, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you.

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        • ok i've had my p1 for about a week and man, it sounds so friggin cool that i havnt had time to explore all its features yet. i mean it just sounds awesome!!!

          its made of plastic- yes plastic, but not flimsy or cheap by any means. i feel like this thing is constructed well and wont crumble into a million pieces one day.

          Its sounds is so fat and unique i honestly feel like anyone could really find a use for this board in their set up.



          Question: i made a rather weak attempt at using this with my MPC which i notice someone has been asking about. ran into some problems. I'm having a hard time intergrating this into a studio setup IE: MPC sequences and p1 slaves. Mike tried to explain how the midi channels work once and i did not grasp it.

          Anyone here have any answers?

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          • Quote Originally Posted by copesland
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            Question: i made a rather weak attempt at using this with my MPC which i notice someone has been asking about. ran into some problems. I'm having a hard time intergrating this into a studio setup IE: MPC sequences and p1 slaves. Mike tried to explain how the midi channels work once and i did not grasp it.

            Anyone here have any answers?




            Could you be more specific? Are you trying to drive XW-P1 sounds over MIDI from sequences within the MPC? Bear in mind that this is not an MPC forum, nor do I have one, so I can only investigate using MIDI with the XW-P1 on a more general level.
            The first 3 books in "The Musician's Guide to Home Recording" series are available from Hal Leonard and http://www.reverb.com. Listen to my music on http://www.YouTube.com/thecraiganderton, and visit http://www.craiganderton.com. Thanks!

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            • Quote Originally Posted by Anderton
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              Could you be more specific? Are you trying to drive XW-P1 sounds over MIDI from sequences within the MPC? Bear in mind that this is not an MPC forum, nor do I have one, so I can only investigate using MIDI with the XW-P1 on a more general level.




              O of course i know this is not an MPC forum, and so My question is more directly involving the P1 . i want to simply use the P1 for synth sounds etc and use MPC for drums. Now how do the midi channels work on the P1? it seems the channels on the P1 are predetermined and wont allow free use of them. forexample only the monosynth,hexlayer, OR drawbar can utilize channel 1 which is fine. but how do i use the other channels?? I want to basically let channel one be ,for example, the hexlayer, then let channel to be a piano and so forth. how do i set the P1 to do this? im less of a performer and more of a studio record kind of guy ya know?

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              • Quote Originally Posted by copesland
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                O of course i know this is not an MPC forum, and so My question is more directly involving the P1




                My mention of that was just that I didn't think you'd get much response about MPC-related aspects, but if I had one, I'd try to help!








                Now how do the midi channels work on the P1? it seems the channels on the P1 are predetermined and wont allow free use of them. forexample only the monosynth,hexlayer, OR drawbar can utilize channel 1 which is fine. but how do i use the other channels?? I want to basically let channel one be ,for example, the hexlayer, then let channel to be a piano and so forth. how do i set the P1 to do this? im less of a performer and more of a studio record kind of guy ya know?



                Okay, I think I see what you want. The Mixer is the part that assigns tones to the 16 channels. Basically, you press the Mixer button, then use the Part +/- buttons to step through the 16 mixer parts (channels). After you've chosen a part, then you can select a Tone to be associated with that part.



                For example, suppose you want a nylon string guitar on channel 12.



                1. Press the Mixer button to open up the Mixer for editing.

                2. Use the Part +/- buttons to select channel 12 on the mixer (there's a string of the 16 numbers along the display's lower right).

                3. Navigate to the Tone parameter in the display.

                4. Press the PCM button for the Guitar category.

                5. Rotate the Data Wheel until you see Nylon Guitar as the desired tone.



                Now data coming in over channel 12 will play the Nylon Guitar sound, assuming that all your other MIDI settings are correct (e.g., MIDI input is enabled for USB of 5-pin DIN, etc.).
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                • ooo i see. I will try this NOW. and in just a few moments you will know how it went!

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                  • Standing by...
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                    • Copes land I be interested as well, can I ask for your impressions of the p1 since I too own an akai mpc and want to use it for drums and samples and p1 for synths

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                      • Quote Originally Posted by monsterism
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                        Copes land I be interested as well, can I ask for your impressions of the p1 since I too own an akai mpc and want to use it for drums and samples and p1 for synths




                        What our good friend anderton is the TRUTH! IT WORKS.



                        my fellow MPC user yes this board is badass. I used to have a fantom g7 and it did not bite like this. Granted, they are two different type of boards but this thing is soooo versatile. you can make so many filthy sounds with it. which you'd love if you're a hip-hop type a guy. thought you mentioned that earlier. Get this board right quick homie. Ps. which mpc you got? i got a 4000

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                        • I own a 2500 and produce hip hop. I would love to hear any basic examples if the P1 in a hip hop context. I like to also ask if it did cross your mind why you choose the p1 say over the g1 and do you fell you get any mileage out of the step sequencer despite owning a mpc.



                          Also last question are you using the mpc as audio in to the p1 or using the p1 audio output to the mpc?

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                          • Ok the way i use it is kinda funny. I dont use a mixer much. I prefer to record a phrase then sample i into the mpc. piece by piece. for my ears, it makes things "mesh". other wise to me it sounds like so dope a** drums wit a lead or somthing soloing over the top dig me? and i use this for hip soley although i am an organ player as well.

                            The step sequencer for you wont be as useful. REASON: the 2500 has 480 ppq i believe which is what the casio has. so for example when you want that robotic hip hop hi hat you get with your note repeat, you can use the step sequencer. but your MPC can already accomplish this. Mine on the other hand has 996 ppq which gives a different feel by a long shot. i have note repeat but its not as robotic which is whats generally used in hip-hop.especially southern music (my forte) .



                            throw more ideas at me tho. im here bruh

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                            • i threw a lot up there, feel free to ask questions

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                              • Per your request...some string examples.



                                There are three sections, as usual just played straight into Sonar.




                                The first is the main stereo strings patch designed for pads and ensembles. I gave it some attacks as well as sustained sections so you could hear how the synth reacted.




                                The second is a string synthesizer patch. One aspect I wanted to point out in this example is how the velocity affects brightness; you can hear individual notes "emerge" from the more muted background.




                                Finally (am I brave, or what?) - solo violin.




                                I have to say after playing with the various string patches, I'm modifying my opinion to thinking that these are pretty darn useable. So while I still think of the XW-P1 as a synthesizer, the PCM sounds are starting to grow on me - and some that I'm finding as I spin the dial really work for me. I like that when I dig deeper into a piece of gear, I find more things I like rather than finding limitations I didn't notice at first.
                                The first 3 books in "The Musician's Guide to Home Recording" series are available from Hal Leonard and http://www.reverb.com. Listen to my music on http://www.YouTube.com/thecraiganderton, and visit http://www.craiganderton.com. Thanks!

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