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  • #61






    Quote Originally Posted by copesland
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    i see so performance would allow me to do this. awesome!! now with the 16 midi channels of the xwp1 can i say have hex layer on one channel, pcm piano on another, monosynth on another and heck, step sequencer on another? whats the limitations here?




    Copesland,

    It it doesn't quite work that way. The XW-P1 is configured so that MIDI channel 1 can be either a Solo Synth, Hex Layer or Drawbar organ. You can not use more than one of these at a time. That leaves channels 2-16 open for your other PCM sounds.



    In a Performance you can configure 4 zones. These generally correspond to MIDI channels 1-4 but that can be changed. As an example:

    Zone 1: Solo Synth (used as a bass in the bottom octave)

    Zone 2: Acoustic Piano

    Zone 3: Synth Pad

    Zone 4: Brass (in the top octave).



    The Step Sequencer is set up to use MIDI channels 8-16. As mentioned above each track in the Step Sequencer can be either an internal sound or trigger an external MIDI device. By default here is the way the Step Sequencer is configured:



    Part DRM1 (MIDI channel 8): Kick Drum

    Part DRM2 (MIDI channel 9): Snare

    Part DRM3 (MIDI channel 10): Hi-Hat

    Part DRM4 (MIDI channel 11): Toms or Percussion

    Part DRM5 (MIDI channel 12): Cymbals or Percussion

    Part Bass (MIDI channel 13): Bass

    Part Sol1 (MIDI Channel 14): Synth Track

    Part Sol2 (MIDI Channel 15): Synth Track2

    Part CHRD (MIDI Channel 16): Chordal part



    Now there aren't any rules, Drum Parts 1-5 can be any sound, they don't have to be drums and again if you'd like to use these parts (tracks) to trigger sounds from your MPC you easily can.



    I hope this explanation helps,



    Mike Martin

    Casio America, Inc.
    -Mike Martin
    Casio America, Inc.

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    • #62






      Quote Originally Posted by Anderton
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      You're welcome for the review I look at it this way: The XW-P1 is inexpensive enough you can get a good ROMpler and then have a synth/ROMpler combination.



      Don't get me wrong, the PCM section still has much to offer. Some of the sounds are excellent; the ones that aren't are the ones that usually are the weakest in GM-type synths (mainly solo wind and string instruments - you're not going to find a synth in this price range with Vienna Symphony Library-level violin and viola ). And as pointed out, you can layer the PCM sounds with the synth waveforms, which achieves its own kind of coolness. So far, I put the PCM sounds into the "But wait - there's more!!" category. The heart of the PW-X1 is flexible synthesis.




      Yeah!!! I didn't mean to complain. I'm in painful gas for it; I both want and need it badly. I'm in a tight spot and I need all of its many features, I couldn't ask for more. Its a miracle for me really. The future models that Mike(I guess) hinted at somewhere is just essence of good dreams, although, even if there was a higher class Casio available, I would still buy this first and the another one later on top(or under) of it.



      I suspect that I have tried some of its samples in another instruments and some of them are exellent. The damn thing is only sold out everywhere, and especially sold out in Finland so I couldn't try it anywhere.
      I am wanting, I am thinking
      To arise and go forth singing,
      Sing my songs and say my sayings,
      Hymns ancestral harmonizing,
      Lore of kindred lyricking.
      In my mouth the words are melting;
      Utterances overflowing
      To my tongue are hurrying,
      Even against my teeth they burst.

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      • #63
        oooooo ok thats great. that sounds like it will do. mine will be here saturday. cant wait!!! thanks mike. you're jonny on the spot with answering. i appreciate the fast response. UNREAL!

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        • #64
          When using the hex layer, can you only layer pcm sounds? and if i'm understanding your answer to my previous question i can assign hex layer to channel one then use step sequencer on channels 8-16 for drums? (crossed fingers) plz say yes!! but say no if its not.

          and the step sequencer can provide 8 patterns per performance ( an example of a pattern would be say a fill on one pattern, the main drum beat on another pattern, a varied beat for a bridge maybe on another , and so forth?

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          • #65






            Quote Originally Posted by copesland
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            When using the hex layer, can you only layer pcm sounds? and if i'm understanding your answer to my previous question i can assign hex layer to channel one then use step sequencer on channels 8-16 for drums? (crossed fingers) plz say yes!! but say no if its not.

            and the step sequencer can provide 8 patterns per performance ( an example of a pattern would be say a fill on one pattern, the main drum beat on another pattern, a varied beat for a bridge maybe on another , and so forth?




            A Hex Layer Program is a single sound made of up to six layers, these layers are sample based. There are 788 Waveform sets to choose from when building a Hex Layer.



            A Performance will recall a single Step Sequence. Each Step Sequence can have 8 patterns, so you're correct.



            Although you don't have your XW-P1 yet, you may want to download the editor from Casio's website. The editor will function even if a XW-P1 is not connected to your computer so this may give you a better idea of the architecture of a Performance.
            -Mike Martin
            Casio America, Inc.

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            • #66
              Good idea Mike. And where can i find the update when the time comes? i've typed it in google with no luck.

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              • #67
                The editor and the update:

                http://support.casio.com/download.ph...&pid=340&rgn=1
                -Mike Martin
                Casio America, Inc.

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                • #68
                  when i try to change the timbre from solo synth to hex or anyhing else it says communication error... guess i do need the keyboard to use the software. thought i might be able to just scroll through the parameters or what not...

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                  • #69
                    Let's check out the pianos!



                    There are two files. The first one is me playing, trying to hit a range of dynamics and note length (so you can hear the sustain characteristics). The sounds are (in order) Stereo Grand Piano, Dance Piano (sort of your basic M1 house patch), Harpischord - I turned up the performance control a bit to increase the treble - Electric Piano, and DX7-type piano.




                    The second file is a whirlwind tour of all the "acoustic" piano sounds (not all the keyboard sounds, though - more to come!). I called up a phrase so you could also hear an example of a typical phrase along with the various sounds. Basically, each piano sound lasts two measures before moving on to the next one.




                    You probably won't hear too much difference in the beginning. as some of the pianos have fairly subtle differences - a little bit brighter, more mono than stereo, etc. As the phrases progress, you'll definitely start to notice the range.




                    I'm planning on take the whirlwind approach - phase and stepping through programs - for several of the audio examples, as I think that gives a good overview of the available sounds without taking forever by tarrying on each one. Let me know if this approach works for you.
                    The first 3 books in "The Musician's Guide to Home Recording" series are available from Hal Leonard and http://www.reverb.com. Listen to my music on http://www.YouTube.com/thecraiganderton, and visit http://www.craiganderton.com. Thanks!

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                    • #70





                      I'm planning on take the whirlwind approach - phase and stepping through programs - for several of the audio examples, as I think that gives a good overview of the available sounds without taking forever by tarrying on each one. Let me know if this approach works for you.



                      Yes! I like that approach, it gives a more consistent approach to appraise the sounds.



                      Mike if you are reading this post, how much of the sound set is derived from the ctk7000 sound set, or are all of the sounds new from scratch?.

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                      • #71
                        Craig,

                        Thanks for posting these. If you don't mind I may post another or two. The piano in the XW-P1 is really dynamic. It is a triple strike, meaning that it has three different dynamic levels sampled. One thing you can do in a Hex Layer program is independently access each of those dynamic levels, so you can create a piano sound that just uses the softest layer as an example.








                        Mike if you are reading this post, how much of the sound set is derived from the ctk7000 sound set, or are all of the sounds new from scratch?.



                        I don't know the exact number. If I were to guess I'd say 65% of the raw sample data is the same so but there is a lot of new content. There are waveforms that are accessible in both the Solo Synth and Hex Layer modes that simply don't exist in the CTK-7000. Due to the nature of the way Hex Layers and the Solo Synth function, the XW-P1 can get into some sonic territory that the CTK's simply cant.



                        -Mike Martin

                        Casio America, Inc.
                        -Mike Martin
                        Casio America, Inc.

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                        • #72
                          excellent technique used to display each patch. thats a great way to do a "side by side" comparison. the keys are not my favorite section of this board but the pianos yeilded a "better warmer" sound. thanks god this can all be tweaked to my liking correct?

                          lol i might have to hex layer the darn piano with all sorts of stuff to get that warm yammy hammy(yamaha) piano sound i so love

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                          • #73
                            I love the upfront nature of business Casio is doing right now for this board. They are answering questions quickly (thanks Mike) and thoroughly. The fact that they are putting all out on the table shows real confidence. Cant wait to see whats next. For now, XW-P1 !!!! Hey Mike, you're the one i see in all the demos and such right?

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                            • #74






                              Quote Originally Posted by Mike Martin
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                              Copesland,

                              It it doesn't quite work that way. The XW-P1 is configured so that MIDI channel 1 can be either a Solo Synth, Hex Layer or Drawbar organ. You can not use more than one of these at a time. That leaves channels 2-16 open for your other PCM sounds.



                              In a Performance you can configure 4 zones. These generally correspond to MIDI channels 1-4 but that can be changed. As an example:

                              Zone 1: Solo Synth (used as a bass in the bottom octave)

                              Zone 2: Acoustic Piano

                              Zone 3: Synth Pad

                              Zone 4: Brass (in the top octave).



                              The Step Sequencer is set up to use MIDI channels 8-16. As mentioned above each track in the Step Sequencer can be either an internal sound or trigger an external MIDI device. By default here is the way the Step Sequencer is configured:



                              Part DRM1 (MIDI channel 8): Kick Drum

                              Part DRM2 (MIDI channel 9): Snare

                              Part DRM3 (MIDI channel 10): Hi-Hat

                              Part DRM4 (MIDI channel 11): Toms or Percussion

                              Part DRM5 (MIDI channel 12): Cymbals or Percussion

                              Part Bass (MIDI channel 13): Bass

                              Part Sol1 (MIDI Channel 14): Synth Track

                              Part Sol2 (MIDI Channel 15): Synth Track2

                              Part CHRD (MIDI Channel 16): Chordal part



                              Now there aren't any rules, Drum Parts 1-5 can be any sound, they don't have to be drums and again if you'd like to use these parts (tracks) to trigger sounds from your MPC you easily can.




                              Here you use zones 1-4 (midi channels 1-4) and with the step sequencer we used midi channels 8-16. when using the step sequencer are the 8-16 stuck for the step sequencer alone or can i utilize say 8-12 and free the other four channels up for pcm sounds? and what happens to channels 5-7 ?

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                              • #75
                                So I found the phrase that Craig used for the other piano demos and guess the tempo using the Tap Tempo button. This piano sound was done in the Hex Layer mode using only the softest dynamic level. Since I was in Hex Layer mode, I started adding some other things. I know Craig hasn't gotten to Hex Layers yet but this is one of my favorite parts of the instrument so forgive me for getting carried away.



                                I've also attached the Hex Layer program I made to create this.




                                -Mike Martin


                                Casio America, Inc.
                                -Mike Martin
                                Casio America, Inc.

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