Members mosshowl Posted August 30, 2011 Members Share Posted August 30, 2011 I've got a Univox Les Paul Jr. that I sanded down to the bare wood several years ago, planning to paint it (a friend found it in the garbage, painted with stop-sign red wall paint). I'd still like to paint it someday, but am unable to right now; I put it back together and would like to play it. My question is, if I play it and maybe get some sweat/oils in the body, will that jeopardize a future paint job? Is there something I should put on it to protect it until I can have it painted? Painting it myself is not really an option, and I won't have the money to have it done for a long while I'm sure. (btw if anyone can give me an idea of how much it should cost I'd appreciate that info. would the fact that it's already sanded bring it down a bit?) Thanks for any advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted August 30, 2011 Members Share Posted August 30, 2011 Anything you put on it that sinks into the grain will need to be sanded off prior to painting. The only exception is to put a primer on there like shelac that acceptc paint over it and if you're going toapply schelac, you have to strip it, and if you're going to strip it, you may as well paint it at the same time. Right? Since you're going to paint it eventually, why worry about the raw wood getting stained? You're going to paint over it right? You'll only need to use a little naphia to remove any finger oils, and sand it a littlebefore applying schelac as a primer before painting. You definately dont want to apply oils or waxes. Those would cause problems applying paint over them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mosshowl Posted August 30, 2011 Author Members Share Posted August 30, 2011 OK, it sounds like if I do get it dirty or grimy in any way, that it will be able to be handled by the person painting it, by applying naphia and sanding it a little. Cool. I wasn't concerned about it for appearances' sake; I was worried about the paint "sticking" or adhering (I guess) to the stained area. Thanks for putting my mind at ease, I'm going to be playing in a few hours and now I can go in worry-free! Anyone have a ballpark figure for how much a paint job should cost? Not looking for any fancy sunbursts or metallic or sparkly finishes; just ol' fashioned TV yellow. There's not even binding on the neck. Not going to do it myself. I hear painting guitars is a pretty tricky business, and as I'm not very handy at that kind of thing in the first place, I do NOT want to mess this guitar up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belva Posted August 30, 2011 Members Share Posted August 30, 2011 I've been charging $200 including materials. But I'm only willing to do it for local peeps as they sometimes change their mind halfway thru. Email communication can sometimes fook things up and I wouldn't want to risk leaving someone unsatisfied. But that should give you a rough idea. And yes, naptha is a good cleaning solvent. A little bit and a red scotchbrite pad will leave an unfinished surface ready for painting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted August 30, 2011 Members Share Posted August 30, 2011 Its not a fun job and though the supplies are likely on the $50 range, the hours it takes to do it right and get a pro lookis not easy. I wouldnt do it for others for under $200 myself. You could try an auto body shop and try to find someone wanting to make a quick buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mosshowl Posted August 31, 2011 Author Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 OK -- thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belva Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 I dunno, I'd be tempted to just get a rattle can of shellac and give it a few light coats. Shellac can be used as a finish all by itself. At least the grime wouldn't get into the wood. And shellac has been used as a sealer for all types of paint, so it doesn't matter if you later want to finish it with dog poo. It'll still stick to the shellac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 I dunno, I'd be tempted to just get a rattle can of shellac and give it a few light coats. Shellac can be used as a finish all by itself. At least the grime wouldn't get into the wood. And shellac has been used as a sealer for all types of paint, so it doesn't matter if you later want to finish it with dog poo. It'll still stick to the shellac. He has it put back together already. If he were to break it down and spray it with shelac, he may as well just go all the way and paint it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Average_Joe Posted September 1, 2011 Members Share Posted September 1, 2011 I dunno, I'd be tempted to just get a rattle can of shellac and give it a few light coats. Shellac can be used as a finish all by itself. At least the grime wouldn't get into the wood. And shellac has been used as a sealer for all types of paint, so it doesn't matter if you later want to finish it with dog poo. It'll still stick to the shellac. Dog poo, although highly resiliant and smelly, would not make a good finish, as it does wear quickly and rubs off. True professionals rarely use dog poo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belva Posted September 1, 2011 Members Share Posted September 1, 2011 Dog poo, although highly resiliant and smelly, would not make a good finish, as it does wear quickly and rubs off. True professionals rarely use dog poo. I've also found that the tone it adds is pretty {censored}ty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mosshowl Posted September 1, 2011 Author Members Share Posted September 1, 2011 Damn, if I had been more patient getting it back together and waited for the wisdom of this thread, I would have shellac'ed it lightly. Ah well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mosshowl Posted September 1, 2011 Author Members Share Posted September 1, 2011 True professionals rarely use dog poo. THAT made me LOL. Literally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members philbo Posted September 9, 2011 Members Share Posted September 9, 2011 Consider using tung oil instead of paint... Just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members c10 Posted September 9, 2011 Members Share Posted September 9, 2011 Primer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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