Members Funkwave Posted April 11, 2017 Members Share Posted April 11, 2017 Hey Guys, Do you have a any favorite plugins to make a live drum track pop? This is after all of the individual tracks are eq'd, etc. I've been getting better at tracking and mixing live drums but have to admit, it is a bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 What are the drums not doing that you'd like to change? What would you like to improve about your drum tracks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Funkwave Posted April 11, 2017 Author Members Share Posted April 11, 2017 Hey Phil, I was basically thinking compression options as a first thought. Well, when the tracks are soloed, I like what I hear. They are eq'd correctly and sound pretty good for close miking in a not so great room. The biggest problem is not having the kit cut through the mix or having the "Power" to drive the track. It's not the take. I have been a session drummer for over 30 years. I am just not a great drum mixer. I have been watching the Slate trigger replacement videos. It's not something that I would want to do but my drum mix sounds like the mix before they add the samples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistersully Posted April 12, 2017 Members Share Posted April 12, 2017 for me, parallel compression is where it's at for drums.... i'm currently using hardware, but have had good results with 1176 plugins.. i use the ik multimedia black76.... you have such a range of options with parallel compression... even using 'all buttons in' mode on an 1176 and adding just a bit can thicken the drums up nicely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Funkwave Posted April 12, 2017 Author Members Share Posted April 12, 2017 This leads to a second question. Why would an industry pro such as CLA use trigger samples on a drum track that was recorded in his own studio? I have been watching some drum mixdown videos where pros are using samples blended with, or replacing the original drum sounds. If these guys are the pros, why aren't their drum sounds asskicking from the start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 This leads to a second question. Why would an industry pro such as CLA use trigger samples on a drum track that was recorded in his own studio? Sonic variety. Replacement and layering is the path to different drum sounds beyond what you captured with just the kit and room microphones. I have been watching some drum mixdown videos where pros are using samples blended with, or replacing the original drum sounds. If these guys are the pros, why aren't their drum sounds asskicking from the start? Their basic recordings should be good... but you don't always have the time or budget to bring Ross Garfield in to provide tons of different kits and snares, tune them for each individual track, etc. etc. Sometimes doing it in post is faster and more cost-effective, or the only option available to you. And besides, layering sounds as you're recording is pretty hard to do... and layering can provide sounds that you can't really get any other way. Having said that, I don't think it's necessary to layer or replace your drums all the time... but if you're going for a more contemporary sound, you might want to consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Funkwave Posted April 13, 2017 Author Members Share Posted April 13, 2017 Well thanks Phil, Being a "Purist" all of these years, I will not feel guilty about trying the Slate 2 trigger replacement plugin. Hek, if all the master mixers are doing it, I'm in! After all, it's still my playing, my feel, and my dynamics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Funkwave Posted April 13, 2017 Author Members Share Posted April 13, 2017 Mister Sully, I have been really liking the Urei 1176 plugin. I happen to have it with my Sonar version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Well thanks Phil, Being a "Purist" all of these years, I will not feel guilty about trying the Slate 2 trigger replacement plugin. Hek, if all the master mixers are doing it, I'm in! After all, it's still my playing, my feel, and my dynamics. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts after you experiment with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members E-money Posted April 16, 2017 Members Share Posted April 16, 2017 I like the 1973 Drum compressor from Stillwell Audio. And it's free which makes it even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I like the 1973 Drum compressor from Stillwell Audio. And it's free which makes it even better. Do you mean EQ? I can't find a "1973 compressor" on the Stillwell site, but they do have a 1073-based EQ there. http://www.stillwellaudio.com/plugins/1973-2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members E-money Posted April 17, 2017 Members Share Posted April 17, 2017 Do you mean EQ? I can't find a "1973 compressor" on the Stillwell site, but they do have a 1073-based EQ there. http://www.stillwellaudio.com/plugins/1973-2/ Yep, that's the one. Funny, I've been using it for a while now and didn't realize it was based on the 1073 EQ. Give it a try when you get some time Phil; it has some nice, tweak-able presets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Danhedonia Posted April 19, 2017 Members Share Posted April 19, 2017 I don't think it's necessary to layer or replace your drums all the time... but if you're going for a more contemporary sound, you might want to consider it. Phil is actually Andy Wallace! TIL .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Phil is actually Andy Wallace! TIL .... Shhh! You're going to blow my cover! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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