Members mistersully Posted November 24, 2009 Members Share Posted November 24, 2009 bought an avantone cv-12 today.... really like it still feel like i need something for rock vocals where i really go off (not metal)... concentrating on recording myself for now do you think an sm57 will do the job well?... or should i be looking for something else? move into a new place in just under 2 weeks where i'll have the best setup i've ever had (in regards to being able to make noise)... including one of these, but with different lining and a hardwood floor i'd like to be sorted for mic's before i move in only other mics are NT1a... octave mk219 (unmodded) and sm58s using fmr rnp and rnc budget would be around $800 aud (i'm in australia)... but the money could be spent elsewhere if i can get by without another mic cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members I was The Funk Posted November 24, 2009 Members Share Posted November 24, 2009 SM57 would work in a pinch. But what you REALLY want is an SM7b. Also, get your oktava modded immediately. You might want to pick up a pair of small diaphram condensers at some point, and maybe a ribbon depending on what else you're recording. But with all of that and a treated space, you should be just fine for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted November 24, 2009 Moderators Share Posted November 24, 2009 The deal with a 57 is you're going to get pops pretty easy so be sure you use your wind screen / popper stopper. I have cut guide vocals with a 57 and a wind screen, not eating the mic, say... 4" off, and have kept them because the guide rocked. I've never wanted for a better sound when that happed. A 57 can sound great on a rock vocal. Bear in mind a 57 has a bump around 4k. Lots of voices sound great with that boost. Some don't. Just be aware of it. The SM7 is a better choice but the 57 can rock assuming the 4k works in your favor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kurfu Posted November 24, 2009 Members Share Posted November 24, 2009 +1 +2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AluminumFalcon Posted November 24, 2009 Members Share Posted November 24, 2009 SM7b, hands down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted November 24, 2009 Members Share Posted November 24, 2009 Agreed with what Lee said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistersully Posted November 24, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 24, 2009 cool... thanks guys i may try a 57 and see how it sounds in the environment i'm working in... either that or i'll just bite the bullet and get the sm7b... with the left over cash going to my room treatment budget i like the boost the 57 gives my voice... but due to noise restrictions inhibiting me at my current place.... i've haven't really cut loose with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted November 24, 2009 Members Share Posted November 24, 2009 Cool. I'd definitely try the 57 first. Especially with a nice preamp, you might be surprised at the vocal recordings you get. Not for everybody/everything, obviously, but what is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistersully Posted November 24, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 24, 2009 will do being on a fairly tight budget right now... there is definitely other stuff i can pour those funds into Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted November 24, 2009 Members Share Posted November 24, 2009 Exactly. Why buy something if you don't need to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members witesol Posted November 24, 2009 Members Share Posted November 24, 2009 the 57 can be perfect, or just ok. there's not much it won't do reasonably. it mates to some preamps well too. i always thought a 57 and RNP was a nice combo for low $ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 the 57 can be perfect, or just ok. there's not much it won't do reasonably. it mates to some preamps well too. i always thought a 57 and RNP was a nice combo for low $ Hey, how's it going? Agreed on all counts. From my personal experience, the 57 can be perfect, or it can be okay, but it rarely sucks. For preamps, I personally like the way it sounds with a Neve preamp, such as the Portico that I own, but didn't like it so much back in the day when I used Mackie preamps (the older ones; I don't know how the newer ones sound). It's nice with an RNP. I honestly cannot remember if I've ever used it with the Peavey VMP-2 I have, and whether I like it through that or not, but my guess is that it probably mates well with that too. There. Now I've discussed every single "outboard" mic preamp I've ever owned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted November 25, 2009 Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 I write "outboard" because technically, the Mackies weren't outboard preamps even though I used them as such, bypassing the rest of the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Have you tried the CV-12 on vocals? While no single mic is "right" for everyone, I certainly wouldn't hesitate to use one on "rock" vocals if it suited the singer. Of course, the SM57 and SM7b are both good options too, depending on the singer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistersully Posted November 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 25, 2009 Have you tried the CV-12 on vocals? While no single mic is "right" for everyone, I certainly wouldn't hesitate to use one on "rock" vocals if it suited the singer. Of course, the SM57 and SM7b are both good options too, depending on the singer... yes last night... but only mild singing when i move in a few weeks i'll really put it through it's paces it was actually a post you made a while ago that made me check the cv-12 out... i'd never heard of the avant stuff... after trying a bunch of mic's in that price range (and a bit higher) it's the one i chose as my 'all-rounder'... really happy with it so far... leaves my other condensers for dead to be honest (imo) so thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rocket Pig Posted December 19, 2009 Members Share Posted December 19, 2009 I'd buy the 57 anyway. That mic is a workhorse that should be in every studio, and doubles as a practically indestructible live mic. Check the local ads and see if you can find someone selling a lightly used one for cheap - xmas time and all. Countless recordings, blah blah blah, all been said before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members piersonm Posted December 24, 2009 Members Share Posted December 24, 2009 I would have said SM7B in a pinch until I heard this comparison. See if you can tell the difference. www.homestudiocorner.com/2009/06/18/shure-sm7b-vs-sm58-with-audio/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members southpaw pete Posted January 1, 2010 Members Share Posted January 1, 2010 Thanks for posting the shootout. Quite impressive how they compare. I have been recording vox with a Rode NTK, but have been having the same issue on a more intense rock vocal for a song... wanting to try some other mics and whatnot to bring out the best for the song... and thus enjoying this thread. Thanks for posting. I think I will try the sm58 tonight and see how it compares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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