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  • #31
    Originally posted by Red Ant View Post

    Huh? He played a 1st inversion Maj triad??? With a little sus4 thrown in? Genius!

    Seriously, whats so special about DMaj(sus4), BbMaj/D and Cmaj/D?
    Well as they say, you take what's good for your pleasin'

    I'll take what's good for the crazy evening.



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    • #32
      Originally posted by guido61 View Post

      True. But the fact is those production styles wouldn’t have worked in the 80s. And I certainly understood the need for updating sounds at the time and I don’t hate the 80s stuff as much as some people here. But that Arif Mardin thing? Wow. Made David Foster sound restrained and subtle.
      Ain't Nobody was '83, but yeah.

      In my mind there is the good 80s that includes Van Halen, hair bands up to and including Ratt, but not Poison, and of course it's the golden age of hip hop.

      And then the bad '80s, which include synth pop bands (special exemptions for Human League, Soft Cell, Kajagoogoo and Duran Duran), Van Hagar, Madonna, etc.. And there was something about the '80s that completely tainted all the '70s prog rock bands. It was really uncanny how bands like Yes and Rush seemed to be like, "hey we tried being good, let's try sucking now! I bet our Album sales will double!" which of course they did. Not just prog bands actually. Billy Joel went from tunes like "The Stranger" to "Uptown Girl." What the hell happened?



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      • #33
        Originally posted by Opposite Day View Post

        Ain't Nobody was '83, but yeah.

        In my mind there is the good 80s that includes Van Halen, hair bands up to and including Ratt, but not Poison, and of course it's the golden age of hip hop.

        And then the bad '80s, which include synth pop bands (special exemptions for Human League, Soft Cell, Kajagoogoo and Duran Duran), Van Hagar, Madonna, etc.. And there was something about the '80s that completely tainted all the '70s prog rock bands. It was really uncanny how bands like Yes and Rush seemed to be like, "hey we tried being good, let's try sucking now! I bet our Album sales will double!" which of course they did. Not just prog bands actually. Billy Joel went from tunes like "The Stranger" to "Uptown Girl." What the hell happened?
        I love a lot of the 80s synth stuff. Tears for Fears. Simple Minds. Howard Jones. Some of that production is dated now, of course, but I loved it at the time. Fresh and groundbreaking and I was soooo “please don’t make hear another southern rock thing ever again!” at the time.

        The prog bands? Well it was either go that route or go home. “Tormato”, anyone? Can I get a shout out for King Crimson’s “Discipline” though? Love that album and the production.

        Billy gets a pass from me because I heard him say once that he came up with the idea of “Uptown Girl” while sitting at a table in a bar with Elle McPherson (who he was dating at the time), Christie Brinkley and Whitney Houston and he was like “WTF? How did I end up HERE?”

        Sometimes it’s best to just roll with it.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by guido61 View Post

          Can I get a shout out for King Crimson’s “Discipline” though? Love that album and the production.
          I loved it when it came out, and I saw every tour from Discipline to Three of A Perfect Pair, but I find it nigh unlistenable now, whereas I can listen to Lark's Tongue, Starless and Red and never tire of it. 80s KC is just too cold and mathematical for me now, and the production and sounds have a great deal to do with it.

          Here's one that does hold up for me still - a brilliant song is a brilliant song, and I think the production works beautifully.



          The Flat Earth is a brilliant album, and it still sounds incredible to me... all the glitz and polish of 80s production, but perfectly organic to the music and balanced with warmth, space and incredible stereo imaging.
          Last edited by Red Ant; 05-05-2019, 10:17 PM.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by guido61 View Post

            I love a lot of the 80s synth stuff. Tears for Fears. Simple Minds. Howard Jones. Some of that production is dated now, of course, but I loved it at the time. Fresh and groundbreaking and I was soooo “please don’t make hear another southern rock thing ever again!” at the time.

            The prog bands? Well it was either go that route or go home. “Tormato”, anyone? Can I get a shout out for King Crimson’s “Discipline” though? Love that album and the production.

            Billy gets a pass from me because I heard him say once that he came up with the idea of “Uptown Girl” while sitting at a table in a bar with Elle McPherson (who he was dating at the time), Christie Brinkley and Whitney Houston and he was like “WTF? How did I end up HERE?”

            Sometimes it’s best to just roll with it.

            Don't kill the whale, bro!

            Still take that over Big Generator any day.



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            • #36
              Re: Van Halen.

              Ive never been a big fan of what Ted Templeman and Donn Landee did with drums sounds. Either with the Doobie Brothers or with Van Halen.

              But “Fair Warning” f’n rocks!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by guido61 View Post
                Re: Van Halen.

                Ive never been a big fan of what Ted Templeman and Donn Landee did with drums sounds. Either with the Doobie Brothers or with Van Halen.

                But “Fair Warning” f’n rocks!
                Right down to the album cover painted by violent mental patients!



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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Red Ant View Post

                  I loved it when it came out, and I saw every tour from Discipline to Three of A Perfect Pair, but I find it nigh unlistenable now, whereas I can listen to Lark's Tongue, Starless and Red and never tire of it. 80s KC is just too cold and mathematical for me now, and the production and sounds have a great deal to do with it.

                  Here's one that does hold up for me still - a brilliant song is a brilliant song, and I think the production works beautifully.



                  The Flat Earth is a brilliant album, and it still sounds incredible to me... all the glitz and polish of 80s production, but perfectly organic to the music and balanced with warmth, space and incredible stereo imaging.
                  Excellent album no doubt.

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                  • #39
                    Jam and Lewis!

                    They also produced Janet Jackson, Nasty etc



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                    • #40
                      Also Trevor Horn was amazing. I don't like everything he's done, but Frankie's "Relax" and Grace Jones' "Slave To The Rhythm" were masterful, production wise - very 80s, but I can still listen to either and appreciate the craftsmanship, and the HUGE sounding mixes.
                      Keep the company of those who seek the truth, and run from those who have found it.

                      -- Vaclav Havel

                      The Universe is unimaginably vast. For small creatures such as we the vastness is bearable only through love.

                      -- Carl Sagan


                      Life - the way it really is - is a battle not between Bad and Good but between Bad and Worse.

                      -- Joseph Brodsky

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by -Ed Phobes- View Post
                        Jam and Lewis!

                        They also produced Janet Jackson, Nasty etc


                        Ah yes, the duo that ruined R&B
                        Keep the company of those who seek the truth, and run from those who have found it.

                        -- Vaclav Havel

                        The Universe is unimaginably vast. For small creatures such as we the vastness is bearable only through love.

                        -- Carl Sagan


                        Life - the way it really is - is a battle not between Bad and Good but between Bad and Worse.

                        -- Joseph Brodsky

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Red Ant View Post
                          Also Trevor Horn was amazing. I don't like everything he's done, but Frankie's "Relax" and Grace Jones' "Slave To The Rhythm" were masterful, production wise - very 80s, but I can still listen to either and appreciate the craftsmanship, and the HUGE sounding mixes.
                          I did love me some "Relax." And Falco!



                          While she's talking, I'll use my mind to think of other things. She can't stop my mind!

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                          • #43
                            Oh, here's one! Very '80s!




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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Opposite Day View Post

                              I did love me some "Relax." And Falco!
                              And coming back around to the prog thing, “Owner of a Lonely Heart” blew my mind first time I heard it.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Red Ant View Post

                                Ah yes, the duo that ruined R&B


                                But I'll forgive you, since I was just about to post Slave to the Rhythm.
                                Trump = Revenge
                                ---------------
                                I love this record – ray
                                https://soundcloud.com/ed-phobes

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