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  • #16
    Originally posted by Anderton
    20 years from now people will go "What WERE they thinking?!?"


    Maybe they'll be saying, "I can't believe they left that last dB in there!"



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    • #17
      Or, more likely:

      "Ehh....CAN YOU SPEAK A BIT LOUDER...I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH THAT....."




      --Mark
      "I don't know anything about music. In my line, you don't have to."
      -Elvis Presley (1935-1977)

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Anderton
        20 years from now people will go "What WERE they thinking?!?"


        +1

        I just hope people are saving the pre-mastered versions of these tunes so that they can be sensibly remastered at such a time as people realize that compression to this extent actually damages the music.
        Hopefully, the time people realize this will be in the near future...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Super 8
          I'm no expert, but I've seen this kind of thing before, and I can't figure out how it is that the meters can be pegged, and yet I can't seem to hear the audio clipping. How are the mastering engineers pulling this off?


          More than likely, something similar to this ...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Super 8
            I'm no expert, but I've seen this kind of thing before, and I can't figure out how it is that the meters can be pegged, and yet I can't seem to hear the audio clipping. How are the mastering engineers pulling this off?


            Well, two ways. With hard limiting, you can keep the peaks at -0.1 dB and bring up the average level as far as you want.

            A few samples over 0dBFS aren't going to be audible. Do that for a while, and keep increasing the number of overs in a row and people will probably grow to like that sound, if they haven't already.

            Terry D.
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            • #21
              You can do that easlily - most hard rock and metal and country is like that nowadays.

              Just put it through Sony's wavehammer set on RMS detect and auto gain compensate and then into an L2 to square off what's left.

              Instant lollypop shape.

              cheers
              john
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              • #22
                Originally posted by MrKnobs


                Maybe they'll be saying, "I can't believe they left that last dB in there!"



                Terry D.




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                Wavehammer... I haven't used it in the current SF8... but I tried it a few times in SF5...

                Man... they named THAT thing right.

                Argh.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Anderton
                  20 years from now people will go "What WERE they thinking?!?"




                  Some of us are saying that NOW!!!!

                  What ARE we thinking? It sounds awful!
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                  • #24
                    Seems like the smashing is getting worse and worser. Thing that gets me is it's just the oppisite with dvd movies. You can't hear the dialog and then KA-BLAM! something blows up and knocks you through the back wall.

                    Just a note on Pyro, I've got the 2003 version and it's fantastic on vinyl. I've used it a bunch to get rid of pops and clicks.

                    -David

                    (the artist formally known as DC before the move to HC)

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                    • #25
                      Disclaimer: This is not an attempt to start (or contribute to) an argument on the art of mastering... I don't truly understand it myself.

                      "Hysteria", I feel, is supposed to be distorted! If you listen to the song, it's gritty... and loud... hysterical (marked by excessive or uncontrollable emotion), if you will.

                      But that's just my take.
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