03-19-2012 12:24 AM
03-19-2012 04:07 AM
03-19-2012 04:24 AM
03-19-2012 04:31 AM
I'm Is it possible to even become a good singer, let alone great, if you're not naturally talented at it? Some of the singers here have been singing since they were kids. I'm starting to doubt that just anybody can become a good singer. It seems too easy to say that. And when I look at various singers in the industry it makes me wonder why they're not all great.
For example Ringo Starr, how come he didn't become any better? This man had 3 great singers to learn from and even got instruction from Paul. I'm sure he could have gotten any number of vocal coaches to teach him.
Why does Drake not become a better singer? He over-employs the Autotune effect.
Why hasn't Neil Young improved his singing? And I say that as a fan.
Not to mention the countless boy/girl bands.
And these are people in the industry, these are professional singers and musicians.
03-19-2012 04:58 AM
Well...I think depending how you want to sing (opera, pop, etc), and how dedicated you are, really does have a major impact on how good / great / how much improvement a person will ever see as a singer.
If you devote yourself to opera for example, that's such a specific style...you tend to need a totally different set of skills for that...whereas if you want to be a pop or rock singer...well, it's a lot easier to get by on your charisma, image, and vocal style as opposed to technical vocal talent or skill.
Also, people who show major dedication to improving themselves vocally...they do tend to have been singing for many years, since childhood or adolescence...simply because it's their passion. Those who do not have that passion, well...why is that? Maybe they won't ever be as good simply because they never had that huge drive to improve.
I don't know who Drake is, but Neil Young...why WOULD he want to improve his singing? Maybe he can't, but I think it's more to do with the fact that he just never felt the great NEED to improve. What if you heard all of his popular songs and then you suddenly heard a new song after he'd dedicated himself to major vocal improvement, and it sounded nothing like him? That's not what people want from this particular singer. They want Neil Young, the package, not Neil Young the vocally perfect singer.
Ringo Starr is not a "natural" singer, but his voice suits his songs, and again, it's pop music, so why change it? He's Ringo. Everyone knows him as Ringo, the package, same as Neil Young the package.
Also, Ringo was always pushed to the back. He was the drummer and would sometimes approach John and Paul with new songs but often they'd not end up being included on the albums. John and Paul were the lead singers, with George at the side, with increasing numbers of his own written and sung songs as time went on in the Beatles...so why would Ringo necessarily feel the need to improve his singing?
Bob Dylan...you think you're familiar with his voice, right? He is by no means a wonderful singer technically, but he does not need to be and would not want to be. Why mess with success? Have you heard Lay Lady Lay? I didn't even know that was him when I first heard it, his voice sounded so different. He had apparently quit smoking and been having singing lessons. People didn't like his voice on that because it wasn't BOB DYLAN, the package.
As far as those boy / girl bands. Meh. They're more image than anything else, mostly. Some of them really can sing, but this fact is often lost on the greater audience.
And hey, just because anyone is in the music industry and is a "professional"...that doesn't mean anything. Amateur singers only become professionals because someone gave them a recording contract or they somehow got noticed on Youtube. It has nothing to do with vocal talent, natural or otherwise.
03-19-2012 08:00 AM
03-19-2012 08:02 AM
Singing is a learned skill. Plain and simple.
03-19-2012 10:40 AM
03-19-2012 12:08 PM
My opinion is that everybody has it in them to be a good singer. "Great" singers on the other hand are born with a gift....Pavoratti, Freddie Mercury, Chris Cornell, etc. I think people can reach this level of skill, but to some it does come easier. Depends on how much effort you want to put in. I've been playing guitar since I was 12 and I can by no means shred and do all the fancy sweeps and arpeggios. But....I didn't put in the time to do so. I got to a certain point and just kinda went with it from there.
I've found that most people start to show noticeable improvements (depending on practice schedule) in 3-6 month intervals. If this is your goal, then you will get there man.....crawl before you walk, walk before you run, run before you fly.
03-19-2012 12:46 PM
03-19-2012 05:55 PM
My opinion is that everybody has it in them to be a good singer. "Great" singers on the other hand are born with a gift....Pavoratti, Freddie Mercury, Chris Cornell, etc.
03-19-2012 06:02 PM
Thanks dude! Keep at it :thu:
Coming from you man that means a lot. You're a good singer (plus you put Cornell up there). Gonna fly like an eagle.
03-19-2012 07:55 PM
crawl before you walk, walk before you run, run before you fly.
03-19-2012 08:46 PM
03-19-2012 10:10 PM
03-19-2012 10:56 PM
So my analogue was lame? :lol:
I didn't crawl at all. I went from pulling myself around on furniture to walking. HAH! (this is in a literal sense, as a baby. Not any sort of lame analogue about singing)
03-20-2012 06:08 AM
If this is your goal, then you will get there man.....crawl before you walk, walk before you run, run before you fly.
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