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06-13-2011 11:39 PM
You gotta read the post above :facepalm:
06-14-2011 12:10 AM
06-14-2011 01:07 AM
Yeah it's funny. The guy is very intelligent, judging by interviews I've seen with him...like on that "Bowling for Columbine" documentary for example. Even his Manson persona has no shock value nowadays! I need to find one where he's not screaming his guts out, Dope Show comes to mind.....hmmmmm :lol:
I have nothing useful to add, as CLEARLY I am no expert on this particular style of singing. lol. But Manson scares me. The real life guy seems nice actually, but his persona...the Manson persona...freaks me OUT!
06-14-2011 09:36 AM
06-14-2011 11:16 AM
Please do not put the gain on the mic up so the signal distort or swallow the mic. This make the lamest sound I know and truly shouts "I suck at vocal technique!!!!" It's OK to practice vocals and screams at low level, but learn how to project the sound. It's about using resonance, support and placement so that you get a big sound without any strain. If you have the Vendera scream and Zen, work with them to learn to produce the sounds (or the noise) without straining. Then try to sing a tone and gradually add the rasp, grit, distortion etc... Also concentrate on lifting the tone up and forward. The grit should also be felt as forward as possible. This way you don't produce the distortion in your throat, and won't blow your voice, as most people do. Another way to do it is to try to sound like AC/DC, motorhead etc... the way I learned it. Focus on total relexed voice and experiment on altering the sound from big to hooty to twang etc. Let this take time. I used to be frustrated over the fact that I wasn't able to distort notes, worked hard on it and today I distort as much as I want. And many times I realize I have overdone some songs because when I finally could do it, I used loads of it!
Good luck man I've been singing for years in heavier bands but it's tough to do. Best I can say is let the mic do the work and don't actually scream - as in your volume should be close to your normal singing voice so you don't blow it out. If it's coming from your diaphragm support you should be in good shape. Just don't push with your throat, stay open.
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06-15-2011 08:35 AM
What was the rule..inhale, don't exhale! Whatever that means!
tell one your bandmates to do the screaming parts for you so you don't have to screw your voice over and then just focus on the rest.
06-15-2011 10:05 AM
Yeah, the Manson stuff is interesting, I can't figure out what the hell he's doing? I've pretty much come to the conclusion that he's actually screaming...which makes me think how the hell he was able to do it night after night, back when they were touring. Beautiful People and Tourniquet were two that we were thinking of possibly doing. As far as Zombie, we get requests for Thunder Kiss 65...which has got some pretty gnarly vox. I can pull off More Human Than Human, but idk about Thunder Kiss..
I am liking this approach. Man this is a really good topic. I have covered Beautiful People before. Manson has a very strange voice. He is about the only singer I have ever heard where I cannot for the life of me figure out exactly *how* he does what he does to sound like that, and I don't think it is an effect either. Out of curiosity which Manson and White Zombie tunes are you looking at?
06-15-2011 12:28 PM
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