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Re: Two questions for the righties


ASS MURPHY wrote:

The OP's questions are stupid. He thinks he's making some sort of point, but he is not.  


It's so pointless that you responded - twice.

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Re: Two questions for the righties


ASS MURPHY wrote:

The OP's questions are stupid. He thinks he's making some sort of point, but he is not.  


they are the questions of a child, asked in that way of a child.

DSM-IV 301.95 Progressive Personality Disorder
A. A pervasive pattern of progressive political and inter-personal thought and action, rooted in discredited leftist (neo-Marxist) beliefs, beginning in early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by at least five of the following (individual must be at least 18 years of age to qualify for the diagnosis of Progressive Personality Disorder, as many of the criteria are age-appropriate for adolescents). This disorder often coexists with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Utopian thinking, e.g. a delusional belief that there exist simple, linear, side effect-free solutions to all social problems.
Lack of historical knowledge and perspective, and repression of personal memories dissonant with this belief system. e.g., the national mood post 9-11, including that of PPD patients, is suppressed in order to avoid conflict with subsequent reversal of beliefs as the PPD delusions were reinstated - hence the downplaying of terrorism as a threat and the obsessive concern for the "rghts" of temporarily feared and hated terrorists. (Note to clinician: please differentiate between mere historical ignorance, e.g., a doctorate in history from an elite university, vs. neurotic or psychotic delusions necessary to sustain these beliefs. )
Anthroplastic delusion, e.g. The delusion that behavioral conditioning performed by the government or some other collective will cure all behavioral and social problems, rooted in denial of fixed human nature. Implicit in this delusion is the idea that human beings are infinitely malleable and subject to behavioral manipulation leading to perfect control and predictability. Free will, personal conscience, and objective morality are denied, devalued or denigrated.
Anti-theistic rebellion: An emotional antagonism to the Judeo-Christian tradition, rooted in an abnormal persistence of adolescent rebellion (may also be related to the need to avoid counter-arguments that would question utopian, anthroplastic ideation). This behavior ranges from a mere antagonism to Christianity to a hatred of all forms of religion. The rejection of religion leads to a deep longing for a substitute religion, or in extreme cases, a messiah. The more Western a religion is, the more it is despised. Thus, these patients may openly accept more primitive pantheistic, neo-pagan, or animist belief systems, such as Wicca or fraudulent "new age" philosophies, e.g., Deepak Chopra, Tony Robbins, etc.
Animist delusion: The belief that mankind is evil and nature is benign. The incidence of this symptom is inversely related to practical knowledge and experience of nature. Collective self-hatred is a feature in this area, paradoxically existing side by side with egomaniacal omniscience, e.g., ability to accurately predict climate 100 years into the future. Typical thinking includes the self-hating belief that mankind is a cancer on earth and that the planet (subjectively felt as a "feeling being") will "retaliate." The animist delusion includes considerable cognitive dissonance, since the typical Progressive Personality is a believer in natural selection, which has resulted in untold suffering and cruelty, mitigated only by mankind's presence.
a. For example, the belief that an eagle egg or four-toed salamander is entitled to more legal protection than a human baby.
Environmental spasm: Chaotic, unreasonable, or incoherent episodes of manic activity on behalf of the environment or "mother nature." The delusional nature of this activity is evidenced by misanthropic attacks on works of man, and also by a manic focus on visible or totemic biological objects of little rational value. The patient is typically obsessed only with cute or cuddly creatures, often a displacement of the nurturing urge (often unfulfilled due to abortion).
Control obsession: A tendency to strive for excessive control over others through state intrusion. A contemptuous projection of unconscious envy which is subjectively experienced as "compassion." Through the magic of this unconscious mechanism, PPD patients typically want the state to appropriate your wealth while imagining themselves to be generous and "compassionate." Use of state coercion often substitutes for true acts of generosity; a low rate of charitable giving is often present.
Racist/feminist hypocrisy: Passionate advocacy of government-enforced discrimination based on sex or race, with aggressively proclaimed opposition to policies which are "racist" or "sexist." Obsessive conformity of thought within a racially diverse population. For example, a PPD patient might favor seating a racist on the Supreme Court, so long as the person is of the "correct" race. Often the cognitive dissonance normally associated with such beliefs is rationalized by the delusion that the "oppressed" cannot themselves be racist.
Overemotional perception: Excessive concern with how a social action "looks" or "feels," to the exclusion of actual resulting benefits or harm; in particular, any effects beyond the immediate. Resistance to, and denial of, objective evidence proving the adverse consequences of progressive policy. Superficial cognition about most matters of significant import, as the progressive personality relies on the "feel" of issues rather than truly understanding them. Obsession with "fairness" or "social justice" as opposed to what actually works.
Sexual dysfunction: Significant anxiety about sexual matters, manifested as:
a. Obsession with sexual and gender roles.
b. Passionate celebration of nontraditional sex roles and preferences.
c. The compulsion to define individuals by their "sexual preference" and to design social policy as if all individuals share the obsession.
d. An inordinate interest in preserving inappropriate, lewd, perverse, or antisocial forms of sexual expression.
e. Fascination with immature or deviant expressions of sexuality; reduction of human sexuality to animal sexuality.
f. The projected belief that the contradictory beliefs are a result of fear (e.g. "homophobia".
e. Obsession with contraception and abortion ("reproductive freedom").
Replacement of patriotism with matriotism: Unwillingness to defend country when attacked or threatened, allied with inability to name or recognize evil and General devaluation of the masculine virtues.
Cultural and moral relativism: The fervent belief that all cultures are beautiful except one's own, and that it is immoral to judge another's morality unless they are conservative.
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Re: Two questions for the righties


ASS MURPHY wrote:

The OP's questions are stupid. He thinks he's making some sort of point, but he is not.  


Exactly. Which is why I answered him as I did.

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Re: Two questions for the righties

How do you ask a question that not only appears intelligent but also results in an answer that satisfies the knowledge you are seeking?

There are two elements that you need to be concerned about in asking questions. Those elements are process and outcomes. The two side of the process element is perspective questions and evaluative questions. The outcome elements involve knowledge questions and action questions. The best questions involve both process and outcome elements in the question.

Start with something simple. Asking something simple first lets the information provider know that you are about to state your opinion, but that you fully realize that you do not comprehend the whole story, and that you are hoping they can fill in some gaps. For example,

 

"Have you heard about the latest modifications to the Farm Bill?"

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Have you heard about the latest modifications to the Farm Bill?

Have you heard about the latest modifications to the Farm Bill?

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Re: Two questions for the righties


SHRED wrote:

 

Gun Rights

If a "tyrannical government" were to come to take your guns, which arm(s) of government would they use?

Immigration

If Canadians were willing to hire you illegally for ten times your current pay would you ignore Canadian law and go?

 

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Reported for using big words when asking righties questions.

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." William J. Casey, Director of the CIA under Ronald Reagan

"I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself." Ronald Reagan

"I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and lived here, even though sometime back they may have entered illegally," Ronald Reagan, 1984.
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Re: Two questions for the righties


Ed wrote:

Sloppy Santa wrote:

Ed wrote:


The question wasn't whether or not it'd care but which arm(s) of the government would be used.


And the answer is that it doesn't matter.


Nope. What you just claimed is the answer "it doesn't matter" is the answer to the question "does it matter which arm(s) of the government would be used?"

 

But I get it. Answering questions is difficult and annoying. The simpler the worse it is.

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ASS MURPHY wrote:

The OP's questions are stupid. He thinks he's making some sort of point, but he is not.  


He's fantasizing again...

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Re: Two questions for the righties


ASS MURPHY wrote:

The OP's questions are stupid. He thinks he's making some sort of point, but he is not.  


The questions are very simple. One only needs to answer them and then the OP can make his point, if he has one, and it can then be discussed / dismissed.

 

People that frequently avoid questions typically have very little to back up their views.

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Re: Two questions for the righties


Davo17 wrote:



they are the questions of a child, asked in that way of a child.


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Re: Two questions for the righties

 If and or when it happens here, It would under the flag of the UN.

 

No I wouldn't go to Canada to work. I  took a huge cut in pay when I left DC for Florida. 

 

 Still..........stupid thread.  BTW SHRED, how long till I'm going to have to subsidise your insurance so you can retire early? 

Phil Said

If you possess the superior intellect, then it should be no problem for you to point out the logical fallacies and other problems of their position or post without having to debase yourself by resorting to ad hominem attacks.

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Re: Two questions for the righties

"Reported for using big words when asking righties questions."

You consider those to be "big words"? May I suggest extending your vocabulary?
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Re: Two questions for the righties


Sloppy Santa wrote:

ASS MURPHY wrote:

The OP's questions are stupid. He thinks he's making some sort of point, but he is not.  


The questions are very simple. One only needs to answer them and then the OP can make his point, if he has one, and it can then be discussed / dismissed.

 

People that frequently avoid questions typically have very little to back up their views.


I did answer his questions, even though I'd already dismissed his stupid questions, because I love wasting my time.

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SHRED wrote:

 

Gun Rights

If a "tyrannical government" were to come to take your guns, which arm(s) of government would they use?

Immigration

If Canadians were willing to hire you illegally for ten times your current pay would you ignore Canadian law and go?

 

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That's a good question. In SC there is a bill in the General Assembly as we speak to exempt any weapon bought prior to Dec. 31 2012 from any federal weapons ban.  I don't think the SCNG would do it. Maybe troops from Fort Bragg?

No. I don't want to break the law and I don't want to live in Canada. I have no problem with a path to immigration as the illegal aliens in my neck of the woods contribute far more to society than do any of the local liberals; in short, the aliens work.

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I'm another one who votes, "It doesn't matter". and it really doesn't. Because once it happens, it's the fault of the apathetic people
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Re: Two questions for the lefties

Shred qoutes,

"Setting aside your refusal to answer my questions and not-so veiled attempt to change the subject...my car requires I insure it in case of an accident or any damage done by the user neglectful or not. Guns carry no such requirement. Why not?"

this is a question of epic biblical stupidity that common sense can answer.

 legally having a POV (personally owned vehicle for you non-military types), is not a right. legally having a firearm is!

 

how fortunate for governments, that the people do not think!

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Re: Two questions for the lefties


360vodka wrote:

Shred qoutes,

"Setting aside your refusal to answer my questions and not-so veiled attempt to change the subject...my car requires I insure it in case of an accident or any damage done by the user neglectful or not. Guns carry no such requirement. Why not?"

this is a question of epic biblical stupidity that common sense can answer.

 legally having a POV (personally owned vehicle for you non-military types), is not a right. legally having a firearm is!

 


Uh, correction, dumbass. Having a driver's license may be a privilege, but vehicle ownership is a right.

Feel free to prove me wrong.

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Re: Two questions for the lefties


Belva wrote:

360vodka wrote:

Shred qoutes,

"Setting aside your refusal to answer my questions and not-so veiled attempt to change the subject...my car requires I insure it in case of an accident or any damage done by the user neglectful or not. Guns carry no such requirement. Why not?"

this is a question of epic biblical stupidity that common sense can answer.

 legally having a POV (personally owned vehicle for you non-military types), is not a right. legally having a firearm is!

 


Uh, correction, dumbass. Having a driver's license may be a privilege, but vehicle ownership is a right.

Feel free to prove me wrong.


(crickets...)

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Re: Two questions for the lefties


Belva wrote:

360vodka wrote:

Shred qoutes,

"Setting aside your refusal to answer my questions and not-so veiled attempt to change the subject...my car requires I insure it in case of an accident or any damage done by the user neglectful or not. Guns carry no such requirement. Why not?"

this is a question of epic biblical stupidity that common sense can answer.

 legally having a POV (personally owned vehicle for you non-military types), is not a right. legally having a firearm is!

 


Uh, correction, dumbass. Having a driver's license may be a privilege, but vehicle ownership is a right.

Feel free to prove me wrong.


My Maserati does 185

I lost my license, now I don't drive.

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ok, burden of proof is on you. show me where the bill of rights supports this car thing
how fortunate for governments, that the people do not think!

In the past quarter century, we exposed biases against other races and called it racism, and we exposed biases against women and called it sexism. Biases against men we call humor.
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