02-03-2013 11:31 PM - edited 02-03-2013 11:33 PM
Tom Hicks wrote:
willhaven wrote:
Oyaji = dumb
ahhh, so that's who that poster is. thanks for the heads-up.
Oyaji=obvious=dumb ![]()
02-04-2013 04:39 AM - edited 02-04-2013 04:40 AM
Ed wrote:He is not enforcing any laws he feels are unconstitutional. As I said, this is just his way of telling Boone county that if there do happen to be laws which come down the pike that he feels are unconstitutional, he will not enforce them.
and we all know what those kinds of laws might be. So please, this bit about there being no current laws is disingenuous.
1) He is not a federal judge.
2) If he chooses not to uphold federal law, he is probably violating his oath of office, the state constitution, or both.
"Senators say they fear the N.R.A. and the gun lobby. But I think that fear must be nothing compared to the fear the first graders in Sandy Hook Elementary School felt as their lives ended in a hail of bullets. The fear that those children who survived the massacre must feel every time they remember their teachers stacking them into closets and bathrooms, whispering that they loved them, so that love would be the last thing the students heard if the gunman found them."- Gabrielle Giffords
02-04-2013 07:32 AM
02-04-2013 07:34 AM
02-04-2013 07:15 PM
willhaven wrote:
Ed wrote:He is not enforcing any laws he feels are unconstitutional. As I said, this is just his way of telling Boone county that if there do happen to be laws which come down the pike that he feels are unconstitutional, he will not enforce them.
and we all know what those kinds of laws might be. So please, this bit about there being no current laws is disingenuous.
1) He is not a federal judge.
2) If he chooses not to uphold federal law, he is probably violating his oath of office, the state constitution, or both.
Doesn't matter what, or whom, he's violating. Who's gonna press charges against him? Some local?
Yeah, right. And that local will get hauled in and charged with everything possible.

02-04-2013 07:50 PM
Belva wrote:
willhaven wrote:
Ed wrote:He is not enforcing any laws he feels are unconstitutional. As I said, this is just his way of telling Boone county that if there do happen to be laws which come down the pike that he feels are unconstitutional, he will not enforce them.
and we all know what those kinds of laws might be. So please, this bit about there being no current laws is disingenuous.
1) He is not a federal judge.
2) If he chooses not to uphold federal law, he is probably violating his oath of office, the state constitution, or both.
Doesn't matter what, or whom, he's violating. Who's gonna press charges against him? Some local?
Yeah, right. And that local will get hauled in and charged with everything possible.
The point is that there are no possible charges to file. There are no laws that he is breaking with this.
02-04-2013 07:53 PM
Ed wrote:
Belva wrote:
willhaven wrote:
Ed wrote:He is not enforcing any laws he feels are unconstitutional. As I said, this is just his way of telling Boone county that if there do happen to be laws which come down the pike that he feels are unconstitutional, he will not enforce them.
and we all know what those kinds of laws might be. So please, this bit about there being no current laws is disingenuous.
1) He is not a federal judge.
2) If he chooses not to uphold federal law, he is probably violating his oath of office, the state constitution, or both.
Doesn't matter what, or whom, he's violating. Who's gonna press charges against him? Some local?
Yeah, right. And that local will get hauled in and charged with everything possible.
The point is that there are no possible charges to file. There are no laws that he is breaking with this.
He's just another stupid loudmouth blowhard conservative asshole.
"Senators say they fear the N.R.A. and the gun lobby. But I think that fear must be nothing compared to the fear the first graders in Sandy Hook Elementary School felt as their lives ended in a hail of bullets. The fear that those children who survived the massacre must feel every time they remember their teachers stacking them into closets and bathrooms, whispering that they loved them, so that love would be the last thing the students heard if the gunman found them."- Gabrielle Giffords
02-04-2013 07:56 PM
yes, well when you are down to calling people names, you have lost.
02-04-2013 08:08 PM
willhaven wrote:He's just another stupid loudmouth blowhard conservative asshole.
You mean he's really Visconti?

02-04-2013 08:43 PM
Ed wrote:yes, well when you are down to calling people names, you have lost.
Know thy audience.
"Senators say they fear the N.R.A. and the gun lobby. But I think that fear must be nothing compared to the fear the first graders in Sandy Hook Elementary School felt as their lives ended in a hail of bullets. The fear that those children who survived the massacre must feel every time they remember their teachers stacking them into closets and bathrooms, whispering that they loved them, so that love would be the last thing the students heard if the gunman found them."- Gabrielle Giffords
02-05-2013 07:46 AM
Ed wrote:
Belva wrote:
willhaven wrote:
Ed wrote:He is not enforcing any laws he feels are unconstitutional. As I said, this is just his way of telling Boone county that if there do happen to be laws which come down the pike that he feels are unconstitutional, he will not enforce them.
and we all know what those kinds of laws might be. So please, this bit about there being no current laws is disingenuous.
1) He is not a federal judge.
2) If he chooses not to uphold federal law, he is probably violating his oath of office, the state constitution, or both.
Doesn't matter what, or whom, he's violating. Who's gonna press charges against him? Some local?
Yeah, right. And that local will get hauled in and charged with everything possible.
The point is that there are no possible charges to file. There are no laws that he is breaking with this.
Fraud. He took an oath of office and recieves compensation for acting under that oath. If he willfully breaks that oath he is committing fraud.
02-05-2013 08:38 AM
Boone County, West Virginia. Inbred hicks who don't understand the law. Got it.
02-05-2013 02:18 PM
Hoddy wrote:
Windowlicker sheriff, windowlicker poster
02-05-2013 02:26 PM
pink freud wrote:
Fraud. He took an oath of office and recieves compensation for acting under that oath. If he willfully breaks that oath he is committing fraud.
A charge of fraud in this case would be thrown out of the D.A.'s office. He is gaining nothing, he is deceiving nobody, and there is no way to prove that this sheriff knows that what he wrote is untrue.
In short, that is completely ridiculous.
02-05-2013 02:28 PM
Ed wrote:
pink freud wrote:
Fraud. He took an oath of office and recieves compensation for acting under that oath. If he willfully breaks that oath he is committing fraud.A charge of fraud in this case would be thrown out of the D.A.'s office. He is gaining nothing, he is deceiving nobody, and there is no way to prove that this sheriff knows that what he wrote is untrue.
In short, that is completely ridiculous.
He gained nothing? He gained a salary and benefits.
02-05-2013 02:31 PM
TheNord wrote:
Pandering to fools can get you elected.
The 2004 Presidential election certainly proved that.
02-05-2013 02:33 PM
Here's a picture of the illustrious Sheriff.
Why is it that the level-of-attachment-to-guns is almost always directly inverse to the person's liklihood of ever getting laid?
02-05-2013 02:39 PM
He already had the job when he wrote that letter. No, this would be laughed out of the D.A.'s office, let alone a courtroom.
02-05-2013 02:47 PM
Belva wrote:
Doesn't matter what, or whom, he's violating. Who's gonna press charges against him? Some local?
It would depend on what laws he decides to not enforce and how he goes about it. That's what is so dumb about this whole thing. It's a meaningless threat to not enforce laws that don't even yet exist.
I'd have to go back and look at the Administration's recently announced changes, but I don't think there is anything there that would fall under his jurisdiction anyway, is there? He's just blowing smoke for his own political purposes.
As far as laws-that-haven't-been-passed yet. Who knows until they are passed? What? He's going to look the other way at a private gun sale where the seller doesn't perform a background check? OK. But again, I don't even know that that would be something the county sheriff would get involved in anyway.
02-05-2013 02:52 PM
Ed wrote:He already had the job when he wrote that letter. No, this would be laughed out of the D.A.'s office, let alone a courtroom.
Who knows what-the-fuck would happen in West Virginia, but I doubt the DA would probably do much unless there was some conseuences for the sheriff's inaction.
Let's say, for example, we pass mandatory background checks for all private gun sales and he refuses to enforce that law in his county. DA might not do anything about that. But let's say somebody bought a gun who wouldn't have passed that background check and kills somebody with it and it's easy to show that the sheriff's office KNEW the seller wasn't doing the proper checks.
Then, yeah. I could see the DA getting involved at that point. But it's all WAY too speculative because this guy said nothing specific about what laws he believes might be "unconstitutional". He's just blowing smoke.
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