The Political Party

[yumpy]

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willy-b wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

i do TM, since the 70's. Jesus is not on the same level as Buddha.

but if Buddha works for people, great. 

"true reality?" through meditation? 

no, it is an exercise, that has benifits for the body and mind. not the soul.

and that's the crux of the problem. people need to believe they have a soul. 

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TM isn't Buddhist mediation dude. TM's just one type of meditation (since '85 myself)

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i know, didn't say it was. 

[fatback]

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moogerfooger wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

no photoshop. is it another cloud? just random shit u see everyday, right? get it?

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we get it, you're an idiot. 

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sorry, it must be man made global warming.

or just a bunch of random photons having a party. 

what the hell is wrong with you? 

explain it like u mean it, bitch. 

and this is only on this planet. when u get your fuckin science guys off their asses and get us off this fuckin rock, maybe you will see the hand of God more clearly. 

what part of, "HE is all around us" that you can't figure out? it's all there for the taking.

you fuckers better hope HE doesn't speak to you, you probably would not like what you hear.

oh yeah, i guess i destroyed your stereotypical christian profile.

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like I said -- you're and idiot.  I dont see god up there twirling his finger around. Looks kind of ominous. Maybe the devil did it.  EEK 

all seriousness aside yump,  if god is everywhere and everything then god is, well, nothing.  By that I mean, indestinguishable from nature.  God doesnt speak, he listens.  you should start listening too. it;s not about being a science guy. it's understanding the nature of existence. science doesnt deal in whys, just the hows and the whens. the whys are unknown. we can only get a glimps of true reality through meditiation. that is what the teaching of the Buddha, and Jesus are all about.  

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i do TM, since the 70's. Jesus is not on the same level as Buddha.

but if Buddha works for people, great. 

"true reality?" through meditation? 

no, it is an exercise, that has benifits for the body and mind. not the soul.

and that's the crux of the problem. people need to believe they have a soul. 

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Why? what possible difference can it make to believe something that is impossible to know.  if people really believed they have a soul, there would not be this obsession with death. if you really believed, death would be insignificant to you. if the goal it to get to an after life, then this life is not so important, but christians dont want to die any more than atheists, so they are simply going through the motions and dont really believe  a single word of it deep down. you're just lying to yourselves.  get real already. 

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Both of sides have to fear they might be wrong.

Phil

[StompboxMan]

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Rudolf von Hagenwil wrote:

Bump for the Glory of God.

And may Saint StompBoxMan wins the lottery.

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Yes, yes, yes, the Glory of God is all around us! Thank you and thank you Lord Jesus Christ!

We must stick together to fight the forces of evil in our world! Bless you Rudolf von Hagenwil!

[StompboxMan]

The True Word of the Day!

Jesus speaking says!

John 15:4-10
 
4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.

5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will[a] ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. 8 By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.

Love and Joy Perfected

9 “As the Father loved Me, I also have loved you; abide in My love. 10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

www.biblegateway.com

All the more reasons to accept Jesus Christ into your life!

[omni]

Glory to God!!  If not for him I would have parished.

[Hoppy Shimko]

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4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.

5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.

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StompboxMan wrote:

The True Word of the Day!

Jesus speaking says!

John 15:4-10
 
4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.

5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will[a] ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. 8 By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.

Love and Joy Perfected

9 “As the Father loved Me, I also have loved you; abide in My love. 10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

www.biblegateway.com

All the more reasons to accept Jesus Christ into your life!

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StompboxMan wrote:

The True Word of the Day!

Jesus speaking says!

John 15:4-10
 
4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.

5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will[a] ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. 8 By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.

Love and Joy Perfected

9 “As the Father loved Me, I also have loved you; abide in My love. 10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

www.biblegateway.com

All the more reasons to accept Jesus Christ into your life!

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This is a lie.

[Rudolf von Hag…]

There is no reason to accept a guy into my life who died 2000 years ago.

[Rudolf von Hag…]

Bump for the Glory of God,

and fuck the fans of Jesus.

[Rudolf von Hag…]

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StompboxMan wrote:

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Rudolf von Hagenwil wrote:

Bump for the Glory of God.

And may Saint StompBoxMan wins the lottery.

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Yes, yes, yes, the Glory of God is all around us! Thank you and thank you Lord Jesus Christ!

We must stick together to fight the forces of evil in our world! Bless you Rudolf von Hagenwil!

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You made my day !!!

[omni]

Rudy when you are sick or a loved one, the first thing you will fo is to pray for Jesus to help you. This is a promise. You know that Jesus never turns anyone away.   You will fall to your knees one day.

[chuckgp]

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yumpy wrote:

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willy-b wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

i do TM, since the 70's. Jesus is not on the same level as Buddha.

but if Buddha works for people, great. 

"true reality?" through meditation? 

no, it is an exercise, that has benifits for the body and mind. not the soul.

and that's the crux of the problem. people need to believe they have a soul. 

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TM isn't Buddhist mediation dude. TM's just one type of meditation (since '85 myself)

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i know, didn't say it was. 

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TM?!?!?!

what a fucking joke: fake 'secret mantras' for the fools, how much did you pay for those again??

worse than the total bullshit of christianity

[chuckgp]

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omni wrote:

Rudy when you are sick or a loved one, the first thing you will fo is to pray for Jesus to help you. This is a promise. You know that Jesus never turns anyone away.   You will fall to your knees one day.

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I fell on my knees cause I was laughing so hard at this bullshit.

If you're in pain, first thing you'll scream for is pain killer, not a goddamn prayer with Jesus the Impotent

[Rudolf von Hag…]

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chuckgp wrote:

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omni wrote:

Rudy when you are sick or a loved one, the first thing you will fo is to pray for Jesus to help you. This is a promise. You know that Jesus never turns anyone away.   You will fall to your knees one day.

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I fell on my knees cause I was laughing so hard at this bullshit.

If you're in pain, first thing you'll scream for is pain killer, not a goddamn prayer with Jesus the Impotent

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But maybe he is right.

I do not know what I do when I step on a pedestrian strip and both legs must be amputated, especially when the mind is also damaged.

[chuckgp]

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Rudolf von Hagenwil wrote:

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chuckgp wrote:

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omni wrote:

Rudy when you are sick or a loved one, the first thing you will fo is to pray for Jesus to help you. This is a promise. You know that Jesus never turns anyone away.   You will fall to your knees one day.

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I fell on my knees cause I was laughing so hard at this bullshit.

If you're in pain, first thing you'll scream for is pain killer, not a goddamn prayer with Jesus the Impotent

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But maybe he is right.

I do not know what I do when I step on a pedestrian strip and both legs must be amputated, especially when the mind is also damaged.

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Oh, you can waste all the time you want praying to whatever idol you choose, but you will eventually let the doctors fix you, like stompy did.

If there's radiation involved, you may get memory loss and then not remember it.

[Rudolf von Hag…]

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chuckgp wrote:

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Rudolf von Hagenwil wrote:

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chuckgp wrote:

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omni wrote:

Rudy when you are sick or a loved one, the first thing you will fo is to pray for Jesus to help you. This is a promise. You know that Jesus never turns anyone away.   You will fall to your knees one day.

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I fell on my knees cause I was laughing so hard at this bullshit.

If you're in pain, first thing you'll scream for is pain killer, not a goddamn prayer with Jesus the Impotent

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But maybe he is right.

I do not know what I do when I step on a pedestrian strip and both legs must be amputated, especially when the mind is also damaged.

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Oh, you can waste all the time you want praying to whatever idol you choose, but you will eventually let the doctors fix you, like stompy did.

If there's radiation involved, you may get memory loss and then not remember it.

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My idols are all female, so not risk kneeling and praying at males.

But I wonder what happen to me when I can't remember what ankles, legs, hips, boobs and earlaps are good for, maybe I should set up my testament new, and add that the nurses only get their share of my wealth when they provide this servive while I am in koma.

Of course when StompBoxMan would tell us that Jesus is a women, and I am 100% sure Stompy knows but keeps it for himself the egoist mofo, that would change everything, and I happily join this church, and attend every mass she celebrates.

[chuckgp]

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Rudolf von Hagenwil wrote:

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chuckgp wrote:

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Rudolf von Hagenwil wrote:

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chuckgp wrote:

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omni wrote:

Rudy when you are sick or a loved one, the first thing you will fo is to pray for Jesus to help you. This is a promise. You know that Jesus never turns anyone away.   You will fall to your knees one day.

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I fell on my knees cause I was laughing so hard at this bullshit.

If you're in pain, first thing you'll scream for is pain killer, not a goddamn prayer with Jesus the Impotent

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But maybe he is right.

I do not know what I do when I step on a pedestrian strip and both legs must be amputated, especially when the mind is also damaged.

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Oh, you can waste all the time you want praying to whatever idol you choose, but you will eventually let the doctors fix you, like stompy did.

If there's radiation involved, you may get memory loss and then not remember it.

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My idols are all female, so not risk kneeling and praying at males.

But I wonder what happen to me when I can't remember what ankles, legs, hips, boobs and earlaps are good for, maybe I should set up my testament new, and add that the nurses only get their share of my wealth when they provide this servive while I am in koma.

Of course when StompBoxMan would tell us that Jesus is a women, and I am 100% sure Stompy knows but keeps it for himself the egoist mofo, that would change everything, and I happily join this church, and attend every mass she celebrates.

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just don't get scared

Fear is the mind killer

[willy-b]

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yumpy wrote:

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willy-b wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

i do TM, since the 70's. Jesus is not on the same level as Buddha.

but if Buddha works for people, great. 

"true reality?" through meditation? 

no, it is an exercise, that has benifits for the body and mind. not the soul.

and that's the crux of the problem. people need to believe they have a soul. 

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TM isn't Buddhist mediation dude. TM's just one type of meditation (since '85 myself)

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i know, didn't say it was. 

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You used that experience to discount what moogerfooger was saying though and moogerfooger didn't talk about TM

[willy-b]

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chuckgp wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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willy-b wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

i do TM, since the 70's. Jesus is not on the same level as Buddha.

but if Buddha works for people, great. 

"true reality?" through meditation? 

no, it is an exercise, that has benifits for the body and mind. not the soul.

and that's the crux of the problem. people need to believe they have a soul. 

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TM isn't Buddhist mediation dude. TM's just one type of meditation (since '85 myself)

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i know, didn't say it was. 

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TM?!?!?!

what a fucking joke: fake 'secret mantras' for the fools, how much did you pay for those again??

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I like the practice and still do it (I didn't have to pay because of a friend, I couldn't or wouldn't have afforded it at the time), but I do kind of agree about TM as an organization and a business.

[chuckgp]

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willy-b wrote:

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chuckgp wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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willy-b wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

i do TM, since the 70's. Jesus is not on the same level as Buddha.

but if Buddha works for people, great. 

"true reality?" through meditation? 

no, it is an exercise, that has benifits for the body and mind. not the soul.

and that's the crux of the problem. people need to believe they have a soul. 

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TM isn't Buddhist mediation dude. TM's just one type of meditation (since '85 myself)

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i know, didn't say it was. 

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TM?!?!?!

what a fucking joke: fake 'secret mantras' for the fools, how much did you pay for those again??

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I like the practice and still do it (I didn't have to pay because of a friend, I couldn't or wouldn't have afforded it at the time), but I do kind of agree about TM as an organization and a business.

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Maharishi and the Beatles -- ring any bells?

its a ripoff, you can get a mantra for free, I used to go to a place that gave their guru's mantra to everyone to use for free.

I would like to know yumpty's secret mantra though...i can give him a better one.

[willy-b]

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chuckgp wrote:

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willy-b wrote:

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chuckgp wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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willy-b wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

i do TM, since the 70's. Jesus is not on the same level as Buddha.

but if Buddha works for people, great. 

"true reality?" through meditation? 

no, it is an exercise, that has benifits for the body and mind. not the soul.

and that's the crux of the problem. people need to believe they have a soul. 

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TM isn't Buddhist mediation dude. TM's just one type of meditation (since '85 myself)

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i know, didn't say it was. 

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TM?!?!?!

what a fucking joke: fake 'secret mantras' for the fools, how much did you pay for those again??

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I like the practice and still do it (I didn't have to pay because of a friend, I couldn't or wouldn't have afforded it at the time), but I do kind of agree about TM as an organization and a business.

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Maharishi and the Beatles -- ring any bells?

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yeah, I'm familiar with all that.  I don't have the resentment you do, but I don't really think it needs to be the business that it is  or should be as secretive as it is.