The Political Party

[Rudolf von Hag…]

nonsense, an atheist is only another fool who believes there is nothing

really dangerous are only people like me, who are total free of any believe, and rely only on personal experience

[Rudolf von Hag…]

atheist are the same dumb backwards living in a spiritual vacuum as the religulous

[Used2BMarkoh]

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BigMac5 wrote:

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Oh, the irony, the projection!

Evolution is about turning untested belief into "settled science" through the power of institutions and the passage of time. 

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[GTRMAN]

Wrong. An atheist is simply a person without belief in a deity. 

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Rudolf von Hagenwil wrote:

nonsense, an atheist is only another fool who believes there is nothing

really dangerous are only people like me, who are total free of any believe, and rely only on personal experience

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[GTRMAN]

Bullshit, Markoh. Evolution is one of the most tested and confirmed theories in science. No matter how much whining you do to the contrary will not change the fact that evolution is real, observed, confirmed and a fact.

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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BigMac5 wrote:

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Oh, the irony, the projection!

Evolution is about turning untested belief into "settled science" through the power of institutions and the passage of time. 

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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BigMac5 wrote:

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Oh, the irony, the projection!

Evolution is about turning untested belief into "settled science" through the power of institutions and the passage of time. 

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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[moogerfooger]

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StompboxMan wrote:

Bless my holy God almighty, the Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit! Thank you for openning the Door that changes my life! For I delight in the mighty works of the Lord and ask Him to grant me the desires of my heart!

Thank you King og Kings!

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you worship KIng Og -- now it all makes sense 

Deut: 3:11 For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedsteadwas a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits wasthe length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.

this may be your best bit ever. too bad I spoiled it for you by recognizinf your old testimemnt reference. 

[Used2BMarkoh]

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GTRMAN wrote:

Bullshit, Markoh. Evolution is one of the most tested and confirmed theories in science. No matter how much whining you do to the contrary will not change the fact that evolution is real, observed, confirmed and a fact.

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Nope, Darwinian evolution has never been tested.  Nobody has ever evolved anything.

Genetics, of course, is quite scientific, but Darwin is closer to Al Gore than Michael Faraday.  He's a cult leader, not a scientist.

[Komandi]

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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GTRMAN wrote:

Bullshit, Markoh. Evolution is one of the most tested and confirmed theories in science. No matter how much whining you do to the contrary will not change the fact that evolution is real, observed, confirmed and a fact.

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Nope, Darwinian evolution has never been tested.  Nobody has ever evolved anything.

Genetics, of course, is quite scientific, but Darwin is closer to Al Gore than Michael Faraday.  He's a cult leader, not a scientist.

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Actually, it's better than 'tested'; it's been directly observed!  You cannot get any more factual than that, you science-hating magic-believer.  

So go ahead and argue against known scientific fact some more for our amusement.  I'm guessing you'll make the mistake (for the umpeenth thousandth time) of arguing about Darwin's theory instead of actual biological evolution.  

Better yet, pray that it will go away!  Yeah, that'll work!

[moogerfooger]

markoh: LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA

[GTRMAN]

Either you are in an extreme state of denial, or exceedingly ignorant.

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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GTRMAN wrote:

Bullshit, Markoh. Evolution is one of the most tested and confirmed theories in science. No matter how much whining you do to the contrary will not change the fact that evolution is real, observed, confirmed and a fact.

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Nope, Darwinian evolution has never been tested.  Nobody has ever evolved anything.

Genetics, of course, is quite scientific, but Darwin is closer to Al Gore than Michael Faraday.  He's a cult leader, not a scientist.

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[Komandi]

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GTRMAN wrote:

Either you are in an extreme state of denial, or exceedingly ignorant.

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What; he can't be both?

[Rudolf von Hag…]

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GTRMAN wrote:

Wrong. An atheist is simply a person without belief in a deity. 

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Rudolf von Hagenwil wrote:

nonsense, an atheist is only another fool who believes there is nothing

really dangerous are only people like me, who are total free of any believe, and rely only on personal experience

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you said: "without believe"

and deity translates for me to "nothing", total vacuum, absolutely nothing, not even a molecule in the brain.

the atheist uses the word "believe", as does the believer

both do not use the  word "nothing" for deity

the atheist is probably afraid his religious neighbour would burn down his house

or the atheist is simply not capable to communicate without ambiguity

not even the militant atheist are capable of that, or any other kind of non-believers

 as said, for me are the two groups the same, like plus and minus in electricity

I understand that there is no antonym for the word believe in the English language, or is there

[Used2BMarkoh]

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Komandi wrote:

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Actually, it's better than 'tested'; it's been directly observed!  You cannot get any more factual than that, you science-hating magic-believer. 

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No, it has not.  No species or feature has been observed evolving.  I've explained this to you plenty of times, but for anyone who might have some integrity:  This is a word game - you observe change, call it 'evolution' and then claim that by calling hypothetical changes by that same word, you have proved something.

[Used2BMarkoh]

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GTRMAN wrote:

Either you are in an extreme state of denial, or exceedingly ignorant.

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Because if I'm neither, you're screwed.  Your faith in evolution is not based on actual science, so your only defense is the ad hominem.

I guarantee you don't even have a clear of idea of what you mean by evolution. 

[moogerfooger]

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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Komandi wrote:

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Actually, it's better than 'tested'; it's been directly observed!  You cannot get any more factual than that, you science-hating magic-believer. 

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No, it has not.  No species or feature has been observed evolving.  I've explained this to you plenty of times, but for anyone who might have some integrity:  This is a word game - you observe change, call it 'evolution' and then claim that by calling hypothetical changes by that same word, you have proved something.

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and we're still waiting for Jesus to show up and thats been 2000 years so....................................

[GTRMAN]

Oh Markoh, I know exactly what I'm talking about and I know.that you are either one or the other...possibly both.

[Komandi]

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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Komandi wrote:

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Actually, it's better than 'tested'; it's been directly observed!  You cannot get any more factual than that, you science-hating magic-believer. 

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No, it has not.  No species or feature has been observed evolving.  I've explained this to you plenty of times, but for anyone who might have some integrity:  This is a word game - you observe change, call it 'evolution' and then claim that by calling hypothetical changes by that same word, you have proved something.

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You are a liar.  You believe you are justified in doing so; but a liar nonetheless.  I've provided you the studies that show new features evolving in bacteria.  I've provided you with articles demonstrating obsevable speciation.  It is called the fossil 'record' for a reason.  It contains the record of creatures evolving.  Your ignorant denial means nothing to reality.  It is not a word game at all.  It is observable biological evolution.  Fuck the 'theory'.  Evolution happens.  Hell, you don't even have to take my word for it; you can research it for yourself.  

It happens whether you acknowledge it or not.  It happens whether you believe in magical creators or not.  

What do YOU think denying observable reality makes you?  Intelligent?  I think it makes you blindly ignorant and unteachable.  Are you even able to learn? 

Man.  Fuck religion if this is what it does to someone's mind.  Seriously.  

[Used2BMarkoh]

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moogerfooger wrote:

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and we're still waiting for Jesus to show up and thats been 2000 years so....................................

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And if the ad hominem don't work, we'll wear you down with peewee herman tactics!

[Rudolf von Hag…]

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moogerfooger wrote: 

and we're still waiting for Jesus to show up and thats been 2000 years so....................................

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he actually showed up yesterday at my door, and I gave him 10 bucks and a  shovel to make my entrance free from snow

[Used2BMarkoh]

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Komandi wrote:

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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Komandi wrote:

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Actually, it's better than 'tested'; it's been directly observed!  You cannot get any more factual than that, you science-hating magic-believer. 

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No, it has not.  No species or feature has been observed evolving.  I've explained this to you plenty of times, but for anyone who might have some integrity:  This is a word game - you observe change, call it 'evolution' and then claim that by calling hypothetical changes by that same word, you have proved something.

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You are a liar.  You believe you are justified in doing so; but a liar nonetheless.  I've provided you the studies that show new features evolving in bacteria.

No you haven't, liar. You've provided certain changes in bacteria, changes that are basically genetics, which I acknowledge. Selecting from existing DNA options is genetics, not evolution. And I've pointed out that after virtually infinite generations, bacteria remain bacteria.

I've provided you with articles demonstrating obsevable speciation.

And I have pointed out how this is just more of a word game. I remember it well, how you schmucks argued with me when I pointed out that Darwin had no clear definition of 'species'. You didn't even know what Darwin's theory was, I doubt you do now. So, somebody makes up an arbitrary definition of 'speciation', one that can be observed (which is better characterized as 'reproductive failure', not a new feature or species), and then consider the use of the same word as Darwin proof of Darwin. And you don't even know what I just said, do you? You have the IQ of a brick wall, NOTHING gets through to you. I'm not asking you to agree with me, just allow yourself to comprehend.

It is called the fossil 'record' for a reason. It contains the record of creatures evolving.

No, it does not. You either don't understand or are deliberately lying. Fossils are the remains of dead animals. You can arrange them in sequences if you like, but they don't record evolution.