The Political Party

[moogerfooger]

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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Permanoobie2 wrote:

StompboxMan : Your twisted word game has a flaw! I love my Lord Jesus Christ and do not lie about Him. Jesus is my best friend. I don't lie about my best friend. I don't falsify information about  my friend. Jesus Christ died for the sinns of many and rose from the dead to give those who believe in Him eternal life.

It is simply a matter of record that you [user : StompboxMan] have previosly admitted to the lie.

The reader at large may wish to note that a statements such as  "I don't falsify information about my friend"  is of little use as it could be attributed to either an honest user or a dishonest user.  However, in this case it is inconsistent with the user's previous admission of falsifying the information

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Yeah, how does one evaluate the truth or falsehood of claims, when there is limited and even contradictory evidence?

That's not a question that many HCPPers seem to have ever thought about.  It does seem like it would be a generally useful life skill, but that's just me.

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good question- first you consider whether a claim has the possibility of being true then you consider the  sourse of the claims and whether the sourse has any history of presenting falshoods. 

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Who doesn't have a history of telling falsehoods, in real life? 

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yea -- that's the tricky part 

[yumpy]

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moogerfooger wrote:

soooooooo, what lie did satan tell again? 

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start with adam and eve could be like God.

[yumpy]

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moogerfooger wrote:

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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Permanoobie2 wrote:

StompboxMan : Your twisted word game has a flaw! I love my Lord Jesus Christ and do not lie about Him. Jesus is my best friend. I don't lie about my best friend. I don't falsify information about  my friend. Jesus Christ died for the sinns of many and rose from the dead to give those who believe in Him eternal life.

It is simply a matter of record that you [user : StompboxMan] have previosly admitted to the lie.

The reader at large may wish to note that a statements such as  "I don't falsify information about my friend"  is of little use as it could be attributed to either an honest user or a dishonest user.  However, in this case it is inconsistent with the user's previous admission of falsifying the information

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Yeah, how does one evaluate the truth or falsehood of claims, when there is limited and even contradictory evidence?

That's not a question that many HCPPers seem to have ever thought about.  It does seem like it would be a generally useful life skill, but that's just me.

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good question- first you consider whether a claim has the possibility of being true then you consider the  sourse of the claims and whether the sourse has any history of presenting falshoods. 

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Who doesn't have a history of telling falsehoods, in real life? 

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yea -- that's the tricky part 

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why is it tricky? u do or u don't. 

[moogerfooger]

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yumpy wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

soooooooo, what lie did satan tell again? 

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start with adam and eve could be like God.

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that wasnt a lie. next 

genesis 2 

22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

[Used2BMarkoh]

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moogerfooger wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

soooooooo, what lie did satan tell again? 

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start with adam and eve could be like God.

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that wasnt a lie. next 

genesis 2 

22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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Heh, see?  I didn't fall in your trap.

But the part about "You shall not die" - ?  They did die.

[yumpy]

lol

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moogerfooger wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

soooooooo, what lie did satan tell again? 

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start with adam and eve could be like God.

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that wasnt a lie. next 

genesis 2 

22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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ya, but that didn't happen, now, did it.

they got their ass kicked out of the garden. 

busted! thanks to satan. 

the fuck is wrong wit chu? 

got some lefty lib thang goin on? 

[Mossy Mossy Mo…]

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

soooooooo, what lie did satan tell again? 

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start with adam and eve could be like God.

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that wasnt a lie. next 

genesis 2 

22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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Heh, see?  I didn't fall in your trap.

But the part about "You shall not die" - ?  They did die.

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Not for hundreds of years according to the Bible. The good Lord made it seem like they'd fall down dead the moment they ate it. In other words, it was God who lied to them. 

[Used2BMarkoh]

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Mossy Mossy Moss wrote:

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The good Lord made it seem like they'd fall down dead the moment they ate it. In other words, it was God who lied to them. 

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Did he?  You're an expert an ancient Hebrew language, tenses and all that?

I've always thought it interesting that they didn't say "Die?  What do you mean, 'die'?"

[yumpy]

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

soooooooo, what lie did satan tell again? 

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start with adam and eve could be like God.

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that wasnt a lie. next 

genesis 2 

22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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Heh, see?  I didn't fall in your trap.

But the part about "You shall not die" - ?  They did die.

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that's the problem with these squids, they spout verse and know not what they say.

ignorance breeds contempt. 

they died after getting their ass kicked out of the garden and eve suffered childbirth, took about a 1000yrs but all good things must come to an end.

and we are left with trainset, mossy and moofoo after 5000+ fuckin years. lol, life's a bitch and then you die.

satan planted the seed in man, to think he could be like/as God.  

and man took it seriously. 

[moogerfooger]

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

soooooooo, what lie did satan tell again? 

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start with adam and eve could be like God.

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that wasnt a lie. next 

genesis 2 

22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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Heh, see?  I didn't fall in your trap.

But the part about "You shall not die" - ?  They did die.

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of course they did. they were going to die anyway. only if they ate of the tree of life would they not die. dont you christians now anything about what the bible says? 

the thing is, god told them that eating of the tree of knowledge would kill them, they ate, they didnt die. so it was reall God that lied to them. not satan. 

 where in genesis does it say that adam and eve were imortal? 

[Mossy Mossy Mo…]

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yumpy wrote:

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

soooooooo, what lie did satan tell again? 

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start with adam and eve could be like God.

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that wasnt a lie. next 

genesis 2 

22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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Heh, see?  I didn't fall in your trap.

But the part about "You shall not die" - ?  They did die.

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that's the problem with these squids, they spout verse and know not what they say.

ignorance breeds contempt. 

they died after getting their ass kicked out of the garden and eve suffered childbirth, took about a 1000yrs but all good things must come to an end.

and we are left with trainset, mossy and moofoo after 5000+ fuckin years. lol, life's a bitch and then you die.

satan planted the seed in man, to think he could be like/as God.  

and man took it seriously. 

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You're too dumb to understand the Bible. 

[Used2BMarkoh]

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yumpy wrote:

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that's the problem with these squids, they spout verse and know not what they say.

ignorance breeds contempt. 

Yeah, they're so obviously trying to find any glitch they can. Not even close to an honest reading of the Bible.

they died after getting their ass kicked out of the garden and eve suffered childbirth, took about a 1000yrs but all good things must come to an end.

and we are left with trainset, mossy and moofoo after 5000+ fuckin years.

Funny! Nothing personal, just funny.

satan planted the seed in man, to think he could be like/as God.  

and man took it seriously. 

I've thought that the lie isn't that they would be like God. In that sense Mooger is right. The problem is, they didn't know what God is like yet. They didn't know that to be like God is to die on a cross for somebody else. "You shall be as gods - you will know pain and suffering! You will learn the horror of understanding that for an immortal there is no escape!"

[moogerfooger]

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yumpy wrote:

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

soooooooo, what lie did satan tell again? 

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start with adam and eve could be like God.

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that wasnt a lie. next 

genesis 2 

22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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Heh, see?  I didn't fall in your trap.

But the part about "You shall not die" - ?  They did die.

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that's the problem with these squids, they spout verse and know not what they say.

ignorance breeds contempt. 

they died after getting their ass kicked out of the garden and eve suffered childbirth, took about a 1000yrs but all good things must come to an end.

and we are left with trainset, mossy and moofoo after 5000+ fuckin years. lol, life's a bitch and then you die.

satan planted the seed in man, to think he could be like/as God.  

and man took it seriously. 

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what a dolt you are. 

choke on this 

for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

[yumpy]

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Mossy Mossy Moss wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

soooooooo, what lie did satan tell again? 

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start with adam and eve could be like God.

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that wasnt a lie. next 

genesis 2 

22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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Heh, see?  I didn't fall in your trap.

But the part about "You shall not die" - ?  They did die.

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that's the problem with these squids, they spout verse and know not what they say.

ignorance breeds contempt. 

they died after getting their ass kicked out of the garden and eve suffered childbirth, took about a 1000yrs but all good things must come to an end.

and we are left with trainset, mossy and moofoo after 5000+ fuckin years. lol, life's a bitch and then you die.

satan planted the seed in man, to think he could be like/as God.  

and man took it seriously. 

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You're too dumb to understand the Bible. 

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you are too dickless to do anything. 

[Mossy Mossy Mo…]

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yumpy wrote:

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Mossy Mossy Moss wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

soooooooo, what lie did satan tell again? 

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start with adam and eve could be like God.

---

that wasnt a lie. next 

genesis 2 

22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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Heh, see?  I didn't fall in your trap.

But the part about "You shall not die" - ?  They did die.

---

that's the problem with these squids, they spout verse and know not what they say.

ignorance breeds contempt. 

they died after getting their ass kicked out of the garden and eve suffered childbirth, took about a 1000yrs but all good things must come to an end.

and we are left with trainset, mossy and moofoo after 5000+ fuckin years. lol, life's a bitch and then you die.

satan planted the seed in man, to think he could be like/as God.  

and man took it seriously. 

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You're too dumb to understand the Bible. 

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I want your dick

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Should have put a ring on it

[yumpy]

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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that's the problem with these squids, they spout verse and know not what they say.

ignorance breeds contempt. 

Yeah, they're so obviously trying to find any glitch they can. Not even close to an honest reading of the Bible.

they died after getting their ass kicked out of the garden and eve suffered childbirth, took about a 1000yrs but all good things must come to an end.

and we are left with trainset, mossy and moofoo after 5000+ fuckin years.

Funny! Nothing personal, just funny.

satan planted the seed in man, to think he could be like/as God.  

and man took it seriously. 

I've thought that the lie isn't that they would be like God. In that sense Mooger is right. The problem is, they didn't know what God is like yet. They didn't know that to be like God is to die on a cross for somebody else. "You shall be as gods - you will know pain and suffering! You will learn the horror of understanding that for an immortal there is no escape!"

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u are right, they didn't know what God was like, but the temptation to be as Him, was the bait.

God said, "don't fuckin do it" and they did. 

lol!! now, thanks to Jesus, we have a new covenant. 

which leaves us as our brothers keepers. got a ways to go on that, tho.

[yumpy]

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Mossy Mossy Moss wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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Mossy Mossy Moss wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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moogerfooger wrote:

soooooooo, what lie did satan tell again? 

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start with adam and eve could be like God.

---

that wasnt a lie. next 

genesis 2 

22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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Heh, see?  I didn't fall in your trap.

But the part about "You shall not die" - ?  They did die.

---

that's the problem with these squids, they spout verse and know not what they say.

ignorance breeds contempt. 

they died after getting their ass kicked out of the garden and eve suffered childbirth, took about a 1000yrs but all good things must come to an end.

and we are left with trainset, mossy and moofoo after 5000+ fuckin years. lol, life's a bitch and then you die.

satan planted the seed in man, to think he could be like/as God.  

and man took it seriously. 

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You're too dumb to understand the Bible. 

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I want your dick

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Should have put a ring on it

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dickless wonder changing another quote. tc violation.

got anything real to say, dickless?

[moogerfooger]

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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that's the problem with these squids, they spout verse and know not what they say.

ignorance breeds contempt. 

Yeah, they're so obviously trying to find any glitch they can. Not even close to an honest reading of the Bible.

they died after getting their ass kicked out of the garden and eve suffered childbirth, took about a 1000yrs but all good things must come to an end.

and we are left with trainset, mossy and moofoo after 5000+ fuckin years.

Funny! Nothing personal, just funny.

satan planted the seed in man, to think he could be like/as God.  

and man took it seriously. 

I've thought that the lie isn't that they would be like God. In that sense Mooger is right. The problem is, they didn't know what God is like yet. They didn't know that to be like God is to die on a cross for somebody else. "You shall be as gods - you will know pain and suffering! You will learn the horror of understanding that for an immortal there is no escape!"

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 and yet christians are lining up to become immoral -- oh the horror

[moogerfooger]

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yumpy wrote:

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Used2BMarkoh wrote:

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yumpy wrote:

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that's the problem with these squids, they spout verse and know not what they say.

ignorance breeds contempt. 

Yeah, they're so obviously trying to find any glitch they can. Not even close to an honest reading of the Bible.

they died after getting their ass kicked out of the garden and eve suffered childbirth, took about a 1000yrs but all good things must come to an end.

and we are left with trainset, mossy and moofoo after 5000+ fuckin years.

Funny! Nothing personal, just funny.

satan planted the seed in man, to think he could be like/as God.  

and man took it seriously. 

I've thought that the lie isn't that they would be like God. In that sense Mooger is right. The problem is, they didn't know what God is like yet. They didn't know that to be like God is to die on a cross for somebody else. "You shall be as gods - you will know pain and suffering! You will learn the horror of understanding that for an immortal there is no escape!"

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u are right, they didn't know what God was like, but the temptation to be as Him, was the bait.

God said, "don't fuckin do it" and they did. 

lol!! now, thanks to Jesus, we have a new covenant. 

which leaves us as our brothers keepers. got a ways to go on that, tho.

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you get dumber with every post.   according to the bible, adam and eve didnt have knowledge of good or evil until after they ate the fruit. prior to that they would have been impervious to temptation. or at least if tempted they would have had no concept of the consequernces. evey behavior that was possible for them, was not rooted in good or evil, so their actions, any action was purly human nature, which was created by God. 

this stuff is so absurd that it boggles the mind how people can still take it seriously in the 21 century. 

[Used2BMarkoh]

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moogerfooger wrote:

what a dolt you are. 

choke on this 

for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

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Yeah, it wasn't written in English, it was written in a several thousand year old language.  Here's one scholarly comment on it:

It is just as naïve to insist that the phrase “in the day” means that on that very day death would occur. A little knowledge of the Hebrew idiom will relieve the tension here as well. For example, in 1 Kings 2:37 King Solomon warned a seditious Shimei, “The day you leave [Jerusalem] and cross the Kidron Valley [which is immediately outside the city walls on the east side of the city], you can be sure you will die.” Neither the 1 Kings nor the Genesis text implies immediacy of action on that very same day; instead they point to the certainty of the predicated consequence that would be set in motion by the act initiated on that day. Alternate wordings include at the time when, at that time, now when and the day [when] (see Gen. 5:1; Ex. 6:28; 10:28; 32:34) [Kaiser, et al., 1996, p. 92, emp. in orig.].