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Stonedtone
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Steve Jobs Suicide

He had early detection of the situation, but refused the cut it out surgery, early on. He did all these esoteric, strange herb and natural compounds that didn't work. There was no indication that they were working, but he kept it up. He finally agreed to surgery, but everyone including him knew it was too late.

He's one of the greatest icons in the last 100 years. He had that legacy and maybe he wanted to preserve that. If Apple some how failed, that would be his legacy. He wanted to be a significant person in history as greatness.

 

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Re: Steve Jobs Suicide

Hmmm....Not quite a conspiracy theory, but close enough.

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He might have been good at business, but dying with $6,000,000,000 in the bank with the current "state of the art" medical technology untried is fucking stupid.
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  From what I've been told and what I've seen, pancreatic is one of the most painful of the bunch.

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Didn't he swear to destroy Google, and Android, or die trying?

LOVE my Galaxy III S and I'd stomp on an iPhone before I'd let it replace my Android.

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If only Steve was still alive. The quote function on the iPad would be working by now.
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quickie1
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John Ellis wrote:

  From what I've been told and what I've seen, pancreatic is one of the most painful of the bunch.


And difficult to treat.

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yanktar wrote:

Didn't he swear to destroy Google, and Android, or die trying?

LOVE my Galaxy III S and I'd stomp on an iPhone before I'd let it replace my Android.


And this is why the Galaxy is becoming the most popular cell phone in the world and why Google wants to renegotiate the contract between Samsung and themselves.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/02/report-google-thinks-it-created-a-monster-in-samsung/

Not to mention that the IPhone is chock full of security hazards disquissed as features.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/02/apple-will-offer-5-credits-for-parents-victimized-by-bait...
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/02/apple-will-give-popular-jailbreak-tool-the-banhammer-with-next-...

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/02/researchers-find-yet-another-way-to-get-around-ios-6-1-passcode...

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Edward
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Re: Steve Jobs Suicide


Stonedtone wrote:

He's one of the greatest icons in the last 100 years. He had that legacy and maybe he wanted to preserve that. If Apple some how failed, that would be his legacy. He wanted to be a significant person in history as greatness.

 


Meh. Seemed a bit of a prick to me. He was a great salesman, I'll give him that, but the idea that he created these things is bunk. 


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Another Brick
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My Note II has that gorgeous big screen and useful stylus.

 

Now if only somebody can show me how to operate the damn thing.

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It does seem quite likely that the idea of alternative treatments did kill Jobs, or at least shortened his life considerably.

If I ever get cancer, I'm going to a fucking doctor and using whatever treatment they recommend.

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Rudolf von Hagenwil
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Shit like that happen when you sell computers and other useless iShit to people, and exploit thousand of workers..

 

For every iShit he sold one millisceond of his miserable life was deducted by the Lord.

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Rudolf von Hagenwil
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sometimes the Lord doesn't punish immediately, He waits a few years

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My Wife has an Android phone. I've got an iphone 4s. We both agree the iphone is better and easier to use. Apps are slightly more expensive, but I don't buy them more than a few a year. Her Android phone is only about 5 months older than my iphone. So it's not really technology that makes one better than the other. It's ease of use and the fact that OS updates to Android can make huge differences in the user interface. She hates that. The biggest change an OS update made on my iphone was the Apple maps program. In some ways it was an improvement. Not perfect, but for me more usable than the Google maps app it replaced. We both met studying computer science in 1979, so this is a geek household and has always been one. (She works in software development.) The Android has a bigger screen. The Apple takes better pictures. Both are actually good phones. (Back up on the iphone is easier too.)
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he lived quite a long time with that kind of cancer. like patrick swayze. truth is, sometimes the "cures" are worse than the disease. i could see why he was reluctant to typical medical technologies. in fact, the surgeries used now are relatively the same as they have been since the 30's.
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http://www.webmd.com/cancer/pancreatic-cancer/whipple-procedure

not low success rate, and low rate of qualified patients. maybe he had no choice.
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Re: Steve Jobs Suicide

 


Stonedtone wrote:

He had early detection of the situation, but refused the cut it out surgery, early on. He did all these esoteric, strange herb and natural compounds that didn't work. There was no indication that they were working, but he kept it up. He finally agreed to surgery, but everyone including him knew it was too late.

He's one of the greatest icons in the last 100 years. He had that legacy and maybe he wanted to preserve that. If Apple some how failed, that would be his legacy. He wanted to be a significant person in history as greatness.

 


I was under the impression that Jobs did all that he could to cure himself.

He paid money and went to a different state in order to get a liver transplant sooner than a 'normal' person would have received one.  Supposedly, his MELD score or something wasn't high enough to move him up the list in California.

That doesn't sound like someone who was subconciously attempting to commit suicide...

 

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I'm sure Steve Jobs got good advice from highly qualified MDs.  His entire life was devoted to doing things a bit differently than others.  The fact is, he had an extremely lethal illness. Perhaps he tried a non-prescribed approach in a hopeless situation.  He still lived a fairly long time, given the severity of his disease.

A friend of mine has stage 4 ovarian cancer.  The surgeons did so much damage to her getting the cancer out, her quality of life is drastically diminished, and she's already decided that if the cancer recurs, she won't go under the knife again. Perhaps that was the kind of diagnosis Jobs was facing.  We don't know exactly what his situaton was, so we can't hope to understand his choices.

 

Meh. Seemed a bit of a prick to me. He was a great salesman, I'll give him that, but the idea that he created these things is bunk.

Gotta disagree with you, Ed. He was a visionary in many ways. He saw unrealized potential in many different things (typography, ease of us, innovative form as a driver of good functionality), and was very good at harnessing people to make that potential reality. Was he laudable in every way? Hell, no. But he would make my top-ten list of giants in the founding era of computing.  And consider my opinion while knowing that I have never owned an Apple product.

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Rudolf von Hagenwil
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WynnD wrote:
My Wife has an Android phone. I've got an iphone 4s. 

 

My karma does not permit to own an mobile phone

the automoble I gave away in 1986

 

 

then StompBoxMan spoke to me in the middle of the night and said:

 

 

"Rudy, you're a Saint now, and no matter what other bullshit you commit, you will enter paradies"

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