02-26-2013 07:15 PM
He had early detection of the situation, but refused the cut it out surgery, early on. He did all these esoteric, strange herb and natural compounds that didn't work. There was no indication that they were working, but he kept it up. He finally agreed to surgery, but everyone including him knew it was too late.
He's one of the greatest icons in the last 100 years. He had that legacy and maybe he wanted to preserve that. If Apple some how failed, that would be his legacy. He wanted to be a significant person in history as greatness.
02-26-2013 07:21 PM
Gallus2012 wrote:I've never come across people more dumber than Americans.
I've travelled the globe BTW.
02-26-2013 07:25 PM
02-26-2013 07:28 PM
From what I've been told and what I've seen, pancreatic is one of the most painful of the bunch.
02-26-2013 07:29 PM - edited 02-26-2013 07:30 PM
Didn't he swear to destroy Google, and Android, or die trying?
LOVE my Galaxy III S and I'd stomp on an iPhone before I'd let it replace my Android.
02-27-2013 05:16 AM
02-27-2013 05:30 AM
John Ellis wrote:From what I've been told and what I've seen, pancreatic is one of the most painful of the bunch.
And difficult to treat.
02-27-2013 05:31 AM
yanktar wrote:Didn't he swear to destroy Google, and Android, or die trying?
LOVE my Galaxy III S and I'd stomp on an iPhone before I'd let it replace my Android.
And this is why the Galaxy is becoming the most popular cell phone in the world and why Google wants to renegotiate the contract between Samsung and themselves.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/02/report-goog
Not to mention that the IPhone is chock full of security hazards disquissed as features.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/02/apple-w
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/02/apple-will-gi
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/02/researchers-f
02-27-2013 06:17 AM
Stonedtone wrote:He's one of the greatest icons in the last 100 years. He had that legacy and maybe he wanted to preserve that. If Apple some how failed, that would be his legacy. He wanted to be a significant person in history as greatness.
Meh. Seemed a bit of a prick to me. He was a great salesman, I'll give him that, but the idea that he created these things is bunk.
02-27-2013 06:25 AM
My Note II has that gorgeous big screen and useful stylus.
Now if only somebody can show me how to operate the damn thing.
02-27-2013 06:51 AM
It does seem quite likely that the idea of alternative treatments did kill Jobs, or at least shortened his life considerably.
If I ever get cancer, I'm going to a fucking doctor and using whatever treatment they recommend.
"Senators say they fear the N.R.A. and the gun lobby. But I think that fear must be nothing compared to the fear the first graders in Sandy Hook Elementary School felt as their lives ended in a hail of bullets. The fear that those children who survived the massacre must feel every time they remember their teachers stacking them into closets and bathrooms, whispering that they loved them, so that love would be the last thing the students heard if the gunman found them."- Gabrielle Giffords
02-27-2013 06:58 AM
Shit like that happen when you sell computers and other useless iShit to people, and exploit thousand of workers..
For every iShit he sold one millisceond of his miserable life was deducted by the Lord.
02-27-2013 07:05 AM
sometimes the Lord doesn't punish immediately, He waits a few years
02-27-2013 07:19 AM
02-27-2013 07:19 AM
02-27-2013 07:23 AM
02-27-2013 07:26 AM
02-27-2013 07:44 AM
Stonedtone wrote:He had early detection of the situation, but refused the cut it out surgery, early on. He did all these esoteric, strange herb and natural compounds that didn't work. There was no indication that they were working, but he kept it up. He finally agreed to surgery, but everyone including him knew it was too late.
He's one of the greatest icons in the last 100 years. He had that legacy and maybe he wanted to preserve that. If Apple some how failed, that would be his legacy. He wanted to be a significant person in history as greatness.
I was under the impression that Jobs did all that he could to cure himself.
He paid money and went to a different state in order to get a liver transplant sooner than a 'normal' person would have received one. Supposedly, his MELD score or something wasn't high enough to move him up the list in California.
That doesn't sound like someone who was subconciously attempting to commit suicide...
02-27-2013 08:02 AM - edited 02-27-2013 08:04 AM
I'm sure Steve Jobs got good advice from highly qualified MDs. His entire life was devoted to doing things a bit differently than others. The fact is, he had an extremely lethal illness. Perhaps he tried a non-prescribed approach in a hopeless situation. He still lived a fairly long time, given the severity of his disease.
A friend of mine has stage 4 ovarian cancer. The surgeons did so much damage to her getting the cancer out, her quality of life is drastically diminished, and she's already decided that if the cancer recurs, she won't go under the knife again. Perhaps that was the kind of diagnosis Jobs was facing. We don't know exactly what his situaton was, so we can't hope to understand his choices.
Meh. Seemed a bit of a prick to me. He was a great salesman, I'll give him that, but the idea that he created these things is bunk.
Gotta disagree with you, Ed. He was a visionary in many ways. He saw unrealized potential in many different things (typography, ease of us, innovative form as a driver of good functionality), and was very good at harnessing people to make that potential reality. Was he laudable in every way? Hell, no. But he would make my top-ten list of giants in the founding era of computing. And consider my opinion while knowing that I have never owned an Apple product.
02-27-2013 08:08 AM - edited 02-27-2013 08:09 AM
WynnD wrote:
My Wife has an Android phone. I've got an iphone 4s.
My karma does not permit to own an mobile phone
the automoble I gave away in 1986
then StompBoxMan spoke to me in the middle of the night and said:
"Rudy, you're a Saint now, and no matter what other bullshit you commit, you will enter paradies"
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