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Re: Report: Ron Paul One Of The Most Corrupt Members Of Congress

The Lone Crapper stunk up my thread. :smileysad:


Gallus2012 wrote:

I've never come across people more dumber than Americans.

I've travelled the globe BTW.




 

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Re: Report: Ron Paul One Of The Most Corrupt Members Of Congress

It's a good thread. I'm interested to see what happens to Paul. Sounds like fraud to me.
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Re: Report: Ron Paul One Of The Most Corrupt Members Of Congress


bluzboy wrote:

The Lone Crapper stunk up my thread. :smileysad:


I'm sorry about that.  I can only apologize for my part.

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Re: Report: Ron Paul One Of The Most Corrupt Members Of Congress


yanktar wrote:

bluzboy wrote:

The Lone Crapper stunk up my thread. :smileysad:


I'm sorry about that.  I can only apologize for my part.


 

 

Thanks, but no need.

 

I've stunk up plenty in my time. :smileyhappy:


Gallus2012 wrote:

I've never come across people more dumber than Americans.

I've travelled the globe BTW.




 

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LC stinks up his own threads when he cuts&pastes Alex Jones videos or links to Prison Planet articles.

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Philter wrote:
It's a good thread. I'm interested to see what happens to Paul. Sounds like fraud to me.

 

 

As well as the "crime of conversion."

 

"Whoever embezzles, steals, purloins or knowingly converts to his use any “record, voucher, money, or thing of value of the United States or of any department or agency thereof” commits the crime of conversion.  By billing travel to his member representational allowance after the same travel already was reimbursed by the Liberty Committee, Rep. Paul may have committed the crime of conversion."


Gallus2012 wrote:

I've never come across people more dumber than Americans.

I've travelled the globe BTW.




 

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What a bunch of horseshit. 

He double bills on travel expenses several times over the last decade, yet returns over $100,000 a year from his congressional office budget to the US treasury. 

No amount of evidence will persuade an idiot.

There are none so blind as those who choose not to see.

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You shouldn't post articles from last September, it gives people time to debunk them.

 

 

Elizabeth Flock Read slightly further than the actual report title - the table of contents will do - or better yet, read the actual section on Ron Paul. He is (1) NOT included in The Crew's list of most corrupt politicians, (2) but rather included in a list of politicians who are "dishonorably mentioned" due to the fact that even they know their (3) evidence that is shaky, unconfirmed and in many cases (4) has since been proven to be inaccurate.

 

 


Ron Paul was never on the actual list, he got a mention because the claims were never substantiated. Flock is a shit reporter.

 

 

Ron Paul One Of The Most Corrupt Members Of Congress, Report Finds

By Elizabeth Flock

 


Washington Post Writer Elizabeth Flock Resigns After Editor's Note Claims 'Significant Ethical Lapse...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Flock misreports on CREW's findings, where CREW relied solely on Jonathan Strong, an aide to an opponent of Paul.

 

 

 

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Records Show Ron Paul Trips Paid Twice
House Appears to Have Reimbursed Congressman for Trips That Were Also Paid for by Other Groups
By Jonathan Strong

Roll Call identified eight flights for which the Texas Republican, a GOP presidential candidate and leading champion of smaller government, was reimbursed twice for the same trip. Roll Call also found dozens more instances of duplicate payments for travel from 1999 to 2009, totaling thousands of dollars’ worth of excess payments, but the evidence in those cases is not as complete.

 

http://www.rollcall.com/issues/57_90/Records-Show-Ron-Paul-Trips-Paid-Twice-212118-1.html

 

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Roll Call Hires Former House GOP Staffer Jonathan Strong To Cover House

Roll Call has hired Daily Caller reporter Jonathan Strong to cover the House. Strong previously worked as a congressional aide to House Rep. Dan Lungren (R-CA), and more recently drew criticism for his reporting on Michele Bachmann's migraines.

According to House data compiled by LegiStorm, Strong served as a staff assistant and legislative correspondent for Lungren from August 2006 and August 2008. During his time at the Daily Caller, Strong reported on and provided friendly coverage of the congressman.

When asked by Media Matters if Strong would cover Lungren or legislative activity he's involved with, a Roll Call spokesperson said the details of his House assignment have yet to be finalized but they're "excited to bring" him aboard.

"As with many of our talented journalists, they have a distinguished work history that accompanies them to our newspaper," said Rebecca Gale, Roll Call's Director of Promotions, in an email. "We have not finalized details of Jonathan's reporting, but we expect he will continue to report on Capitol Hill with the highest integrity and ethics that Roll Call is known for."

In a staffing note, Roll Call suggested that Strong was hired, in part, because of his ability to break news. In the memo, posted on FishbowlDC, Roll Call editors noted some of Strong's stories, including "the recent excitement over Michele Bachmann's migraines? Jonathan broke that story." While some reporters defended him, Strong's story drew criticisms for sexism from conservatives and liberals (including Media Matters.)

Strong was also the reporter who spearheaded the Daily Caller's series on the JournoList archives, which purported to show liberal journalists conspiring together. The reporting however, resulted in a seemingly endless series of misleading write-ups about JournoList. The Columbia Journalism Review's Joel Meares wrote that "the controversial reports left many prominent Washington press types, Left and Right, cold."

Strong has devoted friendly coverage to Lungren in The Daily Caller (Strong's site biography notes that he worked for Lungren). On April 26, 2010, for instance, Strong published an article with the headline, "Lungren introduces bill to repeal hidden Obamacare tax authority." From the article:

 

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2011/07/29/roll-call-hires-former-house-gop-staffer-jonath/184537

 

http://www.legistorm.com/person/Jonathan_Strong/26413.html

 

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Staffer for Rep who endorsed Gigrich.

 

Rep. Dan Lungren (R-Calif.) also reacted positively to news that Gingrich is set to open a presidential exploratory committee.

 

http://www.rollcall.com/issues/56_89/-203762-1.html

 

 

 

 

 

Finally debunked by Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC:

 

 

 

 

 

 

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dishonorably mentioned sounds MUCH better.

:smileyvery-happy:

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Tom Hicks wrote:

dishonorably mentioned sounds MUCH better.

:smileyvery-happy:


didn't read CR's post did ya? Well don't bother.

 

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Philter wrote:
http://www.crewsmostcorrupt.org/mostcorrupt/entry/ron-paul-report

Yes, plane tickets. Forget bribery, stolen campaign funds and back-room deals. Plane tickets are the real hallmark of government corruption.

 

Didn't read CR's posts either didja? Dumbass.

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I didn't see anything that explained why Paul was double billing for all those flights. All I saw was a smear against the people who reported it. That's not impressive or convincing.
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Oh and if the story is true, it's not hard to imagine that Paul was up to all the other kinds of fraud you mentioned too.
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Roll Call is the sole source for all three CREW footnotes, and for all three it's the same Roll Call author, Jonathan Strong.

This is their only information.

http://www.rollcall.com/media/newspics/RonPaulAmericanExpress.pdf




How he got the credit card statement is beyond me.


"For example, on March 24, 2003, Paul purchased a round-trip flight from Washington, D.C., to Houston for $651.50. Several weeks later, filings with the FEC show, the Committee to Re-Elect Ron Paul paid $651.50 for the Continental Airlines ticket. Congressional expenditure records show Paul also was reimbursed $651.50 by taxpayers for the same flight."



Oh no! That means there could have been two tickets puchased! And that bastard had his election committee pay for one instead of the taxpayers.

 

 

If these weren't two tickets purchased for two people, or a simple clerical error, the FEC would have come down on RP by now. Also, the IRS would have audited him over travel expenses. 

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Can't find anything from the FEC.

 

 

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Ron Paul is really serious about transparency

http://news.yahoo.com/ron-paul-is-really-serious-about-transparency.html

 

He may be in last place when it comes to delegates, but when it comes to filing expense reports with the FEC, Ron Paul beats everyone.

His campaign’s hyper-vigilance is notable, verging on fanatical.

Every bank fee, every 22 cents at a FedEx, every $1 toll on the Florida turnpike, every $5.09 pit stop at any Starbucks anywhere, every doughnut from Dunkin’ Donuts and Dough Nutz–it’s all right there, itemized in the Paul campaign’s copious expenditure reports. In 160 instances so far, the campaign has reported purchases costing a single dollar or less.

Last week, ProPublica examined the spending of the five presidential candidates and the major super PACs, identifying their 200 top payees. But as part of digging into the more than $306 million spent through February, it was impossible to avoid the other end of the spectrum: The small bucks, if you will.

The Paul campaign tracks every cent like no other, which Paul campaign officials say is deliberate.

“We take the trust our donors place in us very seriously and are deeply committed to transparency and accuracy in our reporting,” wrote Paul’s campaign manager, Jesse Benton, in an email response to ProPublica.

Deeply, indeed.

Under Federal Election Commission rules, campaigns only have to disclose expenditures of more than $200 per election cycle to an individual or a vendor. And, for most campaigns, that’s mostly how it works. Sure, there’s the odd $1 rental car expense for Mitt Romney’s campaign, a few $5 bank fees for Newt Gingrich, and the inexplicable one-cent expense reported by Rick Santorum to the Stoney Creek Inn in Johnston, Iowa. But generally, they don’t sweat the small stuff.

By and large, neither does President Barack Obama’s campaign, which explains on its reports that it specifies travel reimbursements totaling over $500 to any individual and payments to vendors that exceed $200 for the election cycle, but otherwise doesn’t itemize.

That just won’t do for the Paul campaign. A similar thoroughness seems to extend to one of the super PACs supporting him, Endorse Liberty. Super PACs, like other outside spending groups, are supposed to file reports of independent expenditures—TV ads or phone calls or direct mail on behalf of or against a candidate—within a day or two, depending on the time in the election cycle. But Endorse Liberty files all expense within 48 hours, including the $71.92 spent at Captain George’s Seafood Restaurant on Feb. 13 and the 8 cents paid to Google for online advertising on Feb. 27.

Paul’s expenditures show what it’s like to run for president and life on the trail. It’s a journey through gas stations and fast-food joints in towns like Romeoville, Ill., Sugar Land, Texas, and Correctionville, Iowa. There’s a kind of poetry to the purchases, which range from the austere ($59.50 for meals at the Puritan Backroom), to the whimsical ($28.43 for a meal at The Peddler’s Daughter) to the downright depressing ($26.72 for catering from Little Caesars pizza in Colorado on New Year’s Day).

Like Paul himself, the campaign staffers often seem to value thrift. On Oct. 18, for instance, someone spent $1.09 for office equipment at the Dollar Tree in Baton Rouge. Eight days later, someone else spent $1 at a Salvation Army on Sheep Davis Road in New Hampshire for event supplies.

Staffers often ate cheap, spending $1.39 for a meal at the Circle K in El Dorado, Kan., on Sept. 27, $1.27 at the Kwik Star in Charles City, Iowa, on Dec. 9, and 99 cents at the Conoco in Moses Lake, Wash., on Feb. 20. Well, maybe they weren’t meals.

 

“We actually don’t have any food here,” said Chris Chase, the manager of that Conoco, who didn’t recall anyone from the Paul campaign and actually had never heard of the Paul campaign. “We’ve got some candies. Suckers are under $1. We’ve got some protein bars for 99 cents, some Planters peanuts for 59 cents.”

There were a few splurges: For example, the $26,690.01 listed for staying at the Grand Sierra Resort in Reno, Nev.

Though exhaustive, the Paul campaign’s record of purchases sometimes left us wanting to know even more. How is it possible to stop 119 times at the same Kum & Go gas station in Ankeny, Iowa? And what office supply was possibly downloaded for $1.07 on iTunes on Nov. 25?

We asked, but the campaign offered no response. Sadly, we may never know.

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he is a dwarf compared to Rudy
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Re: Report: Ron Paul One Of The Most Corrupt Members Of Congress


ASS MURPHY wrote:

Tom Hicks wrote:

dishonorably mentioned sounds MUCH better.

:smileyvery-happy:


didn't read CR's post did ya? Well don't bother.

 


too late, i already read it.

 

how things in OJ since the new software change?

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Not surprised. Libertarians are air heads. He's taking advantage of that. 

I HAVE SPOKEN
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