How do you expect to pay for all the government things you use: roads, police, firemen, a military to protect you, FAA to make sure the plane you fly on is safe, etc.? Do you think that stuff is free? NO, it has to be paid for. We pay for those things with taxes. If you use those things but don't want to pay taxes to pay for them you are nothing more than a freeloader on society. Go beg for freebies from some on eelse, those of us that pay our share are tired of you freeloaders.
Basically, you're saying yeah...but....
Sure....things have to be paid for. And they were for a very long time without income tax.
Perhaps you should do some research on why we even have an income tax. I'll give you a hint.....it isn't because we needed to pay for things that couldn't be paid for with the same taxes that had been collected before the income tax.
How do you expect to pay for all the government things you use: roads, police, firemen, a military to protect you, FAA to make sure the plane you fly on is safe, etc.? Do you think that stuff is free? NO, it has to be paid for. We pay for those things with taxes. If you use those things but don't want to pay taxes to pay for them you are nothing more than a freeloader on society. Go beg for freebies from some on eelse, those of us that pay our share are tired of you freeloaders.
Basically, you're saying yeah...but....
Sure....things have to be paid for. And they were for a very long time without income tax.
Perhaps you should do some research on why we even have an income tax. I'll give you a hint.....it isn't because we needed to pay for things that couldn't be paid for with the same taxes that had been collected before the income tax.
Freeloader. Pay your share, stop freeloading off the rest of us.
What difference dioes it make if you are taxed on income or some other way? You still need to pay your share. You are not gettting off from your duty to society not to freeload.
Kudos to Tony Nitti. I had to double-check that this wasn't a C/P from the Onion.
"To be honest, it’s hard to blame Mickelson – who has compiled a net worth approaching $180 million by repeatedly striking a tiny white ball until it falls into a hole — for putting all options on the table, which according to some, include the possibility of prematurely shutting down his career to avoid his rising tax burden. Let’s take a look at what Mickelson is up against in 2013:
For starters, courtesy of President Obama’s re-election and the subsequent fiscal cliff negotiations, Mickelson will experience an increase in his top tax rate on ordinary income from 35% to 39.6%, and an increase in his top rate on long-term capital gains and qualified dividends from 15% to 20%. Clearly, when faced with tax hikes of that magnitude, it stops making economic sense for Mickelson to continue to swing a metal stick up to 70 times a day in exchange for the $48 million he earns on an annual basis.
But it gets worse. Thanks to the expiration of the temporary 2% reduction in the payroll tax rate on the first $113,700 of self-employment income, Mickelson will have to fork over an extra $2,274 in tax during 2013, an additional burden that makes it hard to justify briskly walking as many as five miles per day, four days a week. In long pants, nonetheless.
And then there’s the impact of Obamacare. When you consider that from now on, Mickelson will be liable for an additional 0.9% tax on his self-employment income and 3.8% tax on his net investment income after each exceeds $250,000, what’s left over from the multi-million dollar endorsement deal requiring him to sport a Rolex watch while playing private courses in exotic locales hardly seems worth it.
If you think perhaps Mickelson is being a bit of a baby for threating to end a career that’s earned him a spot on this list of 10 wealthiest athletes on the planet because of some tax increases, understand that he’s getting hit on the state level, too. In November, California passed Proposition 30, which increases the top income tax rate on resident millionaires to 13.3%, a drain on Mickelson’s take-home pay that may force him to sell his 9,500 square foot mansion and flee his home state in search of more friendly pastures."
Not sure how this nation ever got to the point in which the people believed they had the right to take away the earnings of another person.
Income tax is what the government calls it. Theft is what it'd be called if we did it on an individual basis.
If you don't have the right to legally do something yourself.....you certainly don't have the right to ask the government to do it for you.
If somebody is living in my house I have every right to charge him/her rent. How did we get to the point that people believe they can enjoy the benefits of living in the most powerful country in the world without paying for it?
Sure....things have to be paid for. And they were for a very long time without income tax.
Perhaps you should do some research on why we even have an income tax. I'll give you a hint.....it isn't because we needed to pay for things that couldn't be paid for with the same taxes that had been collected before the income tax.
Your arguments are so airtight and well-reasoned, I think you should stop filing your Federal Income Tax with the IRS.
I'm certain that they will be just as impressed by your brillience and logic as we are.
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Freeloader. Pay your share, stop freeloading off the rest of us. What difference dioes it make if you are taxed on income or some other way? You still need to pay your share. You are not gettting off from your duty to society not to freeload.
I'd be happy to pay just as the people paid before the income tax.
If there wasn't a difference.....then why does it exist?
Your arguments are so airtight and well-reasoned, I think you should stop filing your Federal Income Tax with the IRS. I'm certain that they will be just as impressed by your brillience and logic as we are.
The government doesn't utilize logic in what it does.
If somebody is living in my house I have every right to charge him/her rent. How did we get to the point that people believe they can enjoy the benefits of living in the most powerful country in the world without paying for it?
No one has suggested that things shouldn't be paid for.
They were paid for without income tax for a very long time.
How dare Phil want to keep as much of his money as possible!
Liberalism; such great ideas, they need to force you to follow them.
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If somebody is living in my house I have every right to charge him/her rent. How did we get to the point that people believe they can enjoy the benefits of living in the most powerful country in the world without paying for it?
No one has suggested that things shouldn't be paid for.
They were paid for without income tax for a very long time.
Yes, with tariffs, import/export taxes, sales tax, etc... all taxes that can be and were avoided by people who had the means to do so. Freeloaders.
Mauser needs to take his guns, move to Somalia and become a warlord. That's the kind of government he seems to prefer. Rather then complain about it, he should should simply go. Small government, low taxes, rights by might, and all the weapons you could want. Mauser paradise. What's stopping you, Mauser?
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Phil should get in a time machine and go back to the 60's, when tax rates were higher and a tournament winner might pull in 25k.
He likely wouldn't have paid any more back then.
A predecessor Minimum Tax was enacted by the Tax Reform Act of 1969[15] and went into effect in 1970. Treasury Secretary Joseph Barr prompted the enactment action with an announcement that 155 high-income households had not paid a dime of federal income taxes.[16] The households had taken advantage of so many tax benefits and deductions that reduced their tax liabilities to zero.[17] Congress responded by creating an add-on tax on high-income households, equal to 10% of the sum of tax preferences in excess of $30,000 plus the taxpayer's regular tax liability.[18]
If somebody is living in my house I have every right to charge him/her rent. How did we get to the point that people believe they can enjoy the benefits of living in the most powerful country in the world without paying for it?
No one has suggested that things shouldn't be paid for.
They were paid for without income tax for a very long time.
That's a great idea, let's go back to 19th century before income taxes and support 19th century roads, bridges , army, etc. I'm sure business will flourish in the USA, when we remove paved roads and running water.
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So the concensus is that if you don't like the government infringong upon you rights and taking your property, move to Somalia.
Kinda makes me wonder if some of you believe there's any limit to what the government can do. Or, if you believe ratifying an amendment makes anything a-ok.
And I'm still looking for a logical explanation of how people we delegate tasks to could possibly have more and different rights than the people who did the delegating. If you believe there should be two sets of rules, one for government and one for the people....then you believe in and support tyranny.
You can talk about amendments and democracy all you want.....but you can't simply vote away the rights of other people, simply because they stand between you and what you want the government to do.
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