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Daryl Flynn
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Obama to let 11 million illegal immigrants become citizens

It's funny, I was just thinking the other day "What does America need most to get us out of a bad economy?"

And the answer was so obvious ... 11 million illegal immigrants!

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-unveils-his-own-proposal-for-immigration-reform/2013/01...

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kav
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Re: Obama to let 11 million illegal immigrants become citizens

So now Willard Romney can hire his landscapers back!
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Re: Obama to let 11 million illegal immigrants become citizens

Well now. They won't be illegal anymore, will they?
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Re: Obama to let 11 million illegal immigrants become citizens

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I do not think that carte blanche granting of citizenship would be appropriate, it would,however, have the benefit of bringing those working under the table jobs into the economy.  If tied to stringent employment eligibility checking and enforcement, then even though it would reward illegal behavior, it would also serve as a brake to further illegal immigration over time.

I do not think that the build an higher fence, deeper moat, more manned airspace approach that is also part of the package is anything more than a confinement measure against the US citizens, or that it would accomplish more than strict workplace enforcement. 

Employment is the primary magnet that draws illegal aliens to the county.  In our recent history, there have been fewer jobs available.  As a result, we have seen a decrease, though not a reversal, in illegal immigration.  The illegal aliens that are in the economy now are primarily those that are entrenched and have families.  They have no intention of leaving short of a door to door search to root them out and this is not practical.  So, while I disagree with it, I think the best approach is to grant them a legal status, if not grant them citizenship, and get them into the taxbase.

The problem that many do not consider with increased workplace eligibility checking and enforcement is that it also limits the freedoms of the citizen.

You wanted it, you might get it, but you might not like the consequences of it.

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Re: Obama to let 11 million illegal immigrants become citizens

Nobody is proposing carte Blanche automatic citizenship.
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yanktar
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Re: Obama to let 11 million illegal immigrants become citizens


BA.Barcolounger wrote:
Nobody is proposing carte Blanche automatic citizenship.

Except in the imagination of crack-pot tin-foil-hat right-wing-nut fringers.

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normh
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BA.Barcolounger wrote:
Nobody is proposing carte Blanche automatic citizenship.

Nor are they proposing mandatory military service; and they should.

They are, however, proposing a free ride for past illegal activities as long as they were not caught for high misdemeanors or felonies.

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trainset
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Re: Obama to let 11 million illegal immigrants become citizens

They should cull 11 million shit americans to make room
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YOU ARE A CAUSTIC POLLUTANT WHO MAKES REASONED PERSONS AVOID THIS FORUM.

Originally Posted by hobbenator
he's one hostile motherfuker

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normh
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trainset wrote:
They should cull 11 million shit americans to make room

And a few Brits.

Not to your liking?  Britain has open arms for its citizens that are unwilling to make the jump to American citizenship.

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Re: Obama to let 11 million illegal immigrants become citizens


savoldi wrote:
Well now. They won't be illegal anymore, will they?

I guess Mitt will have to mow his own lawn now, and Queen Ann will be assigned latrine duty. :smileylol:

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trainset
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Re: Obama to let 11 million illegal immigrants become citizens

Well at least norms not telling me to get back to aFRICA this week...lol
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normh
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Re: Obama to let 11 million illegal immigrants become citizens

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trainset wrote:
Well at least norms not telling me to get back to aFRICA this week...lol

Here is a listing of former and current Commonwealth countries.  Please note that some are in Africa.  Take your pick since you are focused on Africa.

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trainset
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Re: Obama to let 11 million illegal immigrants become citizens


normh wrote:

trainset wrote:
Well at least norms not telling me to get back to aFRICA this week...lol

Here is a listing of former and current Commonwealth countries.  Please note that some are in Africa.  Take your pick since you are focused on Africa.


youre the one that suggested aFRICA...Ill go wherever the fuck I like wee man :smileyhappy:

Originally Posted by Grumpy_Polecat
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Originally Posted by hobbenator
he's one hostile motherfuker

Originally Posted by dblazer
Trainset is an assh*le....I'm reporting him, hopefully he'll be banned for a couple of weeks.
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normh
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Re: Obama to let 11 million illegal immigrants become citizens

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trainset wrote:

youre the one that suggested aFRICA...Ill go wherever the fuck I like wee man :smileyhappy:


Is it any wonder why the British lost the Revolutionary war?  Look no further.

On the other hand, we do understand why you want to see immigration reform.

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trainset
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Re: Obama to let 11 million illegal immigrants become citizens

Scottish highlanders fought on the side of the Americans you dumbfuck lol
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Daryl Flynn
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Re: Obama to let 11 million illegal immigrants become citizens

I'm glad that those 11 million illegal aliens won't need welfare. That would have taken a big bite out of our tax money.

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Daryl Flynn
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Re: Obama to let 11 million illegal immigrants become citizens

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nevermind

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Re: Obama to let 11 million illegal immigrants become citizens

obamie is the worst prez this country has ever had. This guy has an agenda to knock the USA into oblivion. If I had the money I would move to another country.

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Daryl Flynn
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Re: Obama to let 11 million illegal immigrants become citizens


omni wrote:

obamie is the worst prez this country has ever had. This guy has an agenda to knock the USA into oblivion. If I had the money I would move to another country.


It's going to take years to clean up his messes.

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Re: Obama to let 11 million illegal immigrants become citizens


omni wrote:

obamie is the worst prez this country has ever had. This guy has an agenda to knock the USA into oblivion. If I had the money I would move to another country.


Move to a cheap one, asshole. How much can it cost to live in Haiti?

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