01-23-2013 03:49 PM
Booker wrote:
Kramerguy wrote:
Booker wrote:
quickie1 wrote:
Booker wrote:Let's break down what mauser actually wants to do.
He wants to kill liberals.
Thats what this all breaks down to, he's just too much of a coward to say it out loud.
He wants to murder innocent american citizens because he is unhappy with how his democratically elected government works.
Because there is a black man in the presidency.
Holy **bleep** batman. You said what I was thinking.
Its pretty obscene and sick when you really examine what he's saying.
It seems there's a lot of people who fantasize about the breakdown of society. These post-apocolyptic fantasies are downright scary, as we all know- those with guns and property will name themselves dictator, sieze control (violently) of everyone around them, kill any who oppose or trespass, even those starving and unarmed, and probably even torture many and put heads on spikes at their "boundaries", etc..
They seem to want nothing more than a law-less wild-west / zombie apocolypse scenario so they can live out these fantasies.. and sadly are using the current economic and political strife to parrot this insane idea of "revolution". They will do nothing, absolutely zero, to help rebuild society into something better- they will embrace anarchy and fight to protect it. Everyone will be their enemy, nobody will be innocent in their eyes.To read what these whackos type on a daily basis only confirms these suspicions, yet none of them have the balls to admit it, they wrap themselves in the flag and constitution and claim to be the "good guys", possibly even believing their own hype (as we've witnessed from fox news- repeat lies often enough and you start to believe them as truths).. Who knows.
Any logical deduction will tell you that for a civilized society to evole and prosper, armed citizenry is simply nothing more than a liability and holds back progress. Unfortunately for humans, our technology grows by leaps and bounds while our psychological and social evolution falls further and further behind it.
There was a great post apocalyptic book I read, I can't remember the name right now, but it basically laid out this exact scenario.
How people tried rebuilding but where destroyed by these survivalist/libertarian psycho's, trying to recreate society where they were the dictators. Wars were fought between rival "gangs" of these people till everything was destroyed.
Sounds a lot like Lord of the Flies when you think of it
Phil
01-23-2013 03:56 PM
Well having read this thread it seems to me that all you need to do is introduce mental health checks.
Phil
01-23-2013 04:33 PM
Booker wrote:
mauser wrote:
SHRED wrote:Against whom?
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Domestic enemies.
Like who?
Like the traitors talking casually about the violent overthrow of our democratically elected government.
Those domestic enemies.
01-23-2013 04:36 PM
Hoddy wrote:
I'm no firearms expert, but I don't think you're gonna win many battles holding a gun like that.
01-23-2013 04:40 PM
slodge wrote:
I'm no firearms expert, but I don't think you're gonna win many battles holding a gun like that.
All bravado, rhetoric, gun-waving and grandstanding. No action.
01-23-2013 04:48 PM
01-23-2013 06:13 PM
slodge wrote:Like the traitors talking casually about the violent overthrow of our democratically elected government.
Those domestic enemies.
Having a democratically-elected government is great. What's more important than that though, is what they do upon taking their oath of office. If they use that office to uphold and defend the Constitution and the liberties of the people, then all is well.
If, however, they use their office as a tool to trample upon those rights, then they have become traitors and domestic enemies.
The folks who founded this nation were labeled as traitors, seditionists, and charged with treason. That didn't stop them from doing what they believed to be right, and I don't believe it'll stop anyone today.
When the time comes, as it did then, things will change. When the people have finally had enough of their rights being trampled, things will change. Hopefully that change can be effected peacefully, but if not, then as the Declaration of Independence clearly states......whenever any government becomes destructive to liberty, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it.
01-23-2013 06:27 PM - edited 01-23-2013 06:30 PM
mauser wrote:
slodge wrote:Like the traitors talking casually about the violent overthrow of our democratically elected government.
Those domestic enemies.
Having a democratically-elected government is great. What's more important than that though, is what they do upon taking their oath of office. If they use that office to uphold and defend the Constitution and the liberties of the people, then all is well.
If, however, they use their office as a tool to trample upon those rights, then they have become traitors and domestic enemies.
The folks who founded this nation were labeled as traitors, seditionists, and charged with treason. That didn't stop them from doing what they believed to be right, and I don't believe it'll stop anyone today.
When the time comes, as it did then, things will change. When the people have finally had enough of their rights being trampled, things will change. Hopefully that change can be effected peacefully, but if not, then as the Declaration of Independence clearly states......whenever any government becomes destructive to liberty, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it.
The founders were traitors......to England.
You're a traitor to America.
All your crying about your liberties being destroyed because you might have to go through a background check before you get your third AK-47 is a bunch of BS to mask the fact that ou're an anti-American traitor.
Why don't you get the hell out.
01-23-2013 06:30 PM
slodge wrote:The founders were traitors......to England.
You're a traitor to America.
Not until they actually do something. Nugent on down to his pawns.
01-23-2013 06:33 PM
mauser wrote:
slodge wrote:Like the traitors talking casually about the violent overthrow of our democratically elected government.
Those domestic enemies.
Having a democratically-elected government is great....
Until the people elect someone you don't care for.
Then it's time to start shooting.
Traitor.
01-23-2013 06:34 PM - edited 01-23-2013 06:35 PM
mauser wrote:
slodge wrote:Like the traitors talking casually about the violent overthrow of our democratically elected government.
Those domestic enemies.
Having a democratically-elected government is great. What's more important than that though, is what they do upon taking their oath of office. If they use that office to uphold and defend the Constitution and the liberties of the people, then all is well.
If, however, they use their office as a tool to trample upon those rights, then they have become traitors and domestic enemies.
The folks who founded this nation were labeled as traitors, seditionists, and charged with treason. That didn't stop them from doing what they believed to be right, and I don't believe it'll stop anyone today.
When the time comes, as it did then, things will change. When the people have finally had enough of their rights being trampled, things will change. Hopefully that change can be effected peacefully, but if not, then as the Declaration of Independence clearly states......whenever any government becomes destructive to liberty, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it.
So you advocate overthrowing a govenment legally elected by the majority of the people, and you see nothing wrong with that? Did it ever occur to you that the people who elected the govenment might be in opposition to you? And that they could be armed too?
01-23-2013 06:36 PM
erok123 wrote:
mauser wrote:
slodge wrote:Like the traitors talking casually about the violent overthrow of our democratically elected government.
Those domestic enemies.
Having a democratically-elected government is great. What's more important than that though, is what they do upon taking their oath of office. If they use that office to uphold and defend the Constitution and the liberties of the people, then all is well.
If, however, they use their office as a tool to trample upon those rights, then they have become traitors and domestic enemies.
The folks who founded this nation were labeled as traitors, seditionists, and charged with treason. That didn't stop them from doing what they believed to be right, and I don't believe it'll stop anyone today.
When the time comes, as it did then, things will change. When the people have finally had enough of their rights being trampled, things will change. Hopefully that change can be effected peacefully, but if not, then as the Declaration of Independence clearly states......whenever any government becomes destructive to liberty, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it.
So you advocate overthrowing a govenment legally elected by the majority of the people, and you see nothing wrong with that? Did it ever occur to you that the people who elected the govenment might be in opposition to you? And that they could be armed too?
These jackasses are living in a fantasy world and appeals to reason or intelligence fall on deaf ears.
01-23-2013 06:53 PM
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01-23-2013 07:05 PM - edited 01-23-2013 07:06 PM
mauser wrote:
Erik: It occurs to me frequently that civil war is nasty business.
It also occurs to me that if all else fails, that's precisely what will occur.
Let us know when you actually have the balls to fire the first shot.
01-23-2013 07:09 PM
01-23-2013 07:12 PM - edited 01-23-2013 07:15 PM
when the political conversation turns to how best to disarm the population, then get ready for a firestorm, because I can guarantee you that it will not be tolerated.
LOL!!!
What are you gonna do, mauser?
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